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Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?"

Posted By: Old Racer

Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Thu Aug 29 2019 10:13 AM

I really don't want to beat a dead horse, but I had to voice my side of a story.
Or opinion if you will.
I recently came across a Wayne 50 showcase pump.
So I purchased it. I had no intention of keeping it for a collection.
I have had five messages or emails leaning towards "condemning" me for being a "picker" and not wanting to pass it on without making a profit.
One guy said, "We don't need pickers in this hobby, we need collectors".
I simply asked him if he EVER went to swap meets. He has not answered me.
So this is MY reason for picking.
Up until about seven years ago I was a SERIOUS collector.
I had two strokes and that changed my life.
I sold everything except what my son wanted.
I love the Petroliana hobby. I love the people I meet, the friends I have made and the places my travels have taken me.
I love the hunt.
So I buy and sell and restore for others who love Petroliana.
I guess if that makes me a "picker", so be it.
If you don't get excited about finding something like a Wayne 50 Showcase pump, you are in the wrong hobby.
I hope the next owner will enjoy owning it as much as I did finding it.
I am just glad to see young people getting into the hobby.

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Posted By: Catauladave

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Thu Aug 29 2019 11:32 AM

Just my opinion: I have actually known only one true "picker" in over 35 years of collecting. This older gentleman wore overalls, drove an old beat up truck, and could literally find anything. He was jovial, non threatening, and had the gift of gab. He never took the items home after "picking" them, but drove from one collector/dealer to another until everything was gone and he had enough money to get something to eat, put gas in the truck, and go to the dog track. When American Pickers came out...many collectors instantly labeled themselves "pickers" when they were actually just collectors who ran down a lead every now and then. A true "picker" is a whole different animal. They are in it strictly for the money . LOL have a nice day and remember..."It is all just stuff". When you are gone, it will belong to someone else.
Posted By: gasmansgp

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Thu Aug 29 2019 12:02 PM

John, You and I are old enough to remember a time before the interweb. That was when you called a person or met someone at an event, became friendly and talked things over " face to face." In the world today, an awful of lot of "unhappy" people [hide] behind a computer screen and voice their opinions about all sorts of things. Face to face, they would most likely not say a thing? This can be seen simply by watching the sad state of affairs our beloved country finds itself in....as everybody is an expert, on how to handle things? Personally, what I do is solely my affair and the thoughts of others mean less than nothing to me. In reality, these people have no right to talk to you or anyone else that way. When I was in the military...there was a saying...F***, em if they can't take a joke! It has helped me many times. Regards, Paul www.severngaspumps.com
Posted By: DWSheffer

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Thu Aug 29 2019 12:40 PM

John, like everyone says when guys come on here asking about doing pump restorations, "It's your's, do whatever you want with it and whatever makes you happy". This rings just as true with this situation. After reading your post and before reading Paul's, my first thought was "screw 'em"! So Paul and I are thinking along the same lines, lol!
Good luck!
Darin
Posted By: UpnorthNeil

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Thu Aug 29 2019 01:00 PM

Hey John Thanks for having the passion the hobby and the connections across the nation to save this piece for others to own and enjoy. Keep hunting....Neil
Posted By: tbuckles

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Thu Aug 29 2019 02:27 PM

Hey John,
I am thankful for guys like you, your one of the great ones!. How else do people think this stuff gets to market, somebody has to pick it. As far as profit goes, that's what makes to world go around. I've bought from you many times and been very happy with the price I paid (all the while knowing your making a profit). Sorry you had to hear some negative comments.
Tom.
Posted By: Craig Osbeck

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Thu Aug 29 2019 02:34 PM

OK, I will weigh in. Left a post on here about value when it came up. We all will reach a point that it will become a burden to our family if we have enough stuff or no where to place it. So what if someone wants to go find something and then sell it. It just makes the job easier for guys like me now who do not have the time or energy to go out and beat the bush as I did when I was younger. If you do not like the price, then move on. He did the work and found it. Congrats and hope John finds another to help someone else in the hobby get there pump of dreams.
Posted By: Done4

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Thu Aug 29 2019 04:09 PM

I had three friends that called themselves pickers. I called them friends and a great resource. Without them many of my treasured pieces would not be in my collection. As for the profit side they invested a lot of time and money to find this stuff. Unfortunately the title "picker" has changed but the bottom line we need guys like you out there doing what we can't and I'm damn happy you are. Thanks John.
Posted By: Old Racer

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Thu Aug 29 2019 05:04 PM

You guys humble me.
THANK YOU so much for the support. YOU are the reason I love this hobby.
I am 74 now and I know I should not let these people bother me.
I love hunting the stuff, buying and selling and the face on people when they come to pick things up.
THOSE are the people that make the hobby!
Thanks.
Posted By: trifiver

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Thu Aug 29 2019 05:25 PM

Hello John ,

Guys Like you Make this Site & stuff you find Great ,

I want to thank you for the items I have Bought from you the last Items Got here Fast and all Looked Very Good

Thanks

Sid
Posted By: Loyd Pierce

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Thu Aug 29 2019 05:26 PM

Picker or Plucker! A plucker is one that beats the bushes finding this stuff,and has a true love for this hobby.
We need Pluckers in this hobby.
You probably never got so beat up on other pumps(average pumps).
They are just upset that this one is out of their grasp.

Imagine a show like Iowa Gas with no pluckers!
Keep your chin up.
Posted By: Oldgas

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Thu Aug 29 2019 06:26 PM

Old school pickers and collectors who sell are far different from the new breed of pickers who are easily fooled by fakes and ask 3 times retail for their items found in plain sight. You have too much knowledge and passion for the hobby to be a new breed picker.

I miss the now deceased picker who sold me a dozen items over the years. He would remember what I liked and would let me know when he found something that fit my interests. He found items for me that I have never seen for sale elsewhere.

Shake it off, John. Consider the source of harsh criticism. If they don't have the unblemished standing to be taken seriously, don't listen.
Posted By: Jhaas63

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Thu Aug 29 2019 09:45 PM

Hey John, it’s Jim from Reedsburg. We had a long talk on the phone when you were driving back from snagging that pump out from under me in Reedsburg (messing with you).

Don’t let other people bother you with their opinions. Often times, I think it is jealousy anyways. It’s your life and you getting a good deal on a Wayne 50 and reselling doesn’t affect me in the least so I couldn’t care less. Good for you if you make some good money on it. We all need to worry more about ourselves and not worry about what someone else is doing, especially when it has nothing to do with us.
Posted By: Old Racer

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Thu Aug 29 2019 09:52 PM

Thanks Jim.
Posted By: Old Racer

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Thu Aug 29 2019 09:57 PM

Thanks Jim Potts, I know there are a lot of great younger guys getting into this hobby and I'm happy for that. These were only five emails out of now hundreds of comments and views were people appreciate what we have and what we do.
I will just try to keep that in mind going forward. I promise everyone it will not deter me from looking for great items and passing them on to friends and associates in the hobby.
Posted By: TN Volunteer

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Fri Aug 30 2019 01:44 AM

Hey John,

Congrats on finding such an awesome pump. I can only dream of finding one of those pumps. Don't let folks get to you. One lesson I learned along time ago is not to give a damn what others think or say. Most of those folks who criticize are jealous that you got something so cool and are very insecure as well as selfish. Another thing I have learned is that you have get something for you time in this hobby. I used to drive back roads every chance I got looking for that special gem. I put many miles on my truck and came back empty handed many many many times, but when I found something good, I would try to get something for my time, that was 20 years ago. I was told then I was 10 to 20 years too late, but that didn't stop me and I still found some really cool pieces. There is still stuff to be found but one has to work 2, 3, and maybe 5 times as hard to find it. That obviously is reflected at auction sales, eBay, and even swap meets/flea market prices. I had someone come and look at a sign and pump I had for sale and they told me they could go up to Hershey and buy my pump for $2000 complete. He thought I didn't know what I had...but I told him I would buy every last pump of this particular model for $2000, he never has gotten back to me on that and I have never heard from him since. I knew he was a dealer but I wasn't going to be goaded or bullied into selling something as rare as what I had. So these folks will either pony up the money or they won't. Those folks who want to belittle and/or bully someone can go take a long walk off a short pier as far as I am concerned. Have a little respect for your elders or fellow collectors for that matter. John, I hope some day to meet you, wish you the best with that pump hope selling it goes well!!!

Kind Regards,

TN Volunteer
Posted By: Jack Sim

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Fri Aug 30 2019 03:34 AM

If I didn't sell, I wouldn't have the money to purchase the things I want to keep.

Jack Sim
Posted By: gasmansgp

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Fri Aug 30 2019 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by Jack Sim
If I didn't sell, I wouldn't have the money to purchase the things I want to keep. Jack's right.....Like food and a place to stay. All of the above have been dead on the money...Paul www.severngaspumps.com

Jack Sim

Posted By: Paul Bell

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Fri Aug 30 2019 04:33 PM

The folks who dont think profits are allowed or immoral are just being manipulative IMO. They just want a deal and are happy to make the profit themselves later when they are ready to sell. It's similar to folks who dont recognize that values have increased in the last 30 years when they are buying. Or, similar to people who watch the restoration shows on TV and think restorations are easy and cost almost nothing to do.
Posted By: coltex

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Sat Aug 31 2019 03:59 AM

Great find. Way to work and educate yourself......

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Posted By: bsplichal95

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Tue Sep 03 2019 01:15 AM

John.....

Keep doing you!!! I appreciate all you have done for this hobby!
Posted By: Old Racer

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Tue Sep 03 2019 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by bsplichal95
John.....

Keep doing you!!! I appreciate all you have done for this hobby!

Thank you. I love this hobby.
Posted By: bsplichal95

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Tue Sep 03 2019 01:30 AM

Originally Posted by Old Racer
Originally Posted by bsplichal95
John.....

Keep doing you!!! I appreciate all you have done for this hobby!

Thank you. I love this hobby.

Me too!!
Posted By: MATT ALVAREZ

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Tue Sep 03 2019 04:23 AM

John, you are one of the great ones. You are good for this hobby. Even though this will not be a long term purchase for you I bet you are very excited about getting it. I know you will get it to a deserving collector.

I still have these two pumps that you treated me good on back in 2007.

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Posted By: Old Racer

Re: Selling a rare pump. "Picker" or "Collector?" - Tue Sep 03 2019 09:38 AM

Thanks Matt. Those pumps look AWESOME. You renew my faith in the hobby.
We tried to figure it out a couple of days ago, but I think we have bought and sold over 900 pumps over the years.
Many have been restored, but many have not.
Thanks again.
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