Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes

Posted by: Chevrolet SS

Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Fri Apr 29 2011 09:16 PM

Need help. With individual Standard Oil crown gas globes averaging $300 a piece. What would a complete set of seven be worth (includes the very hard to find candle lighted one)?

I have heard there are only 5-7 complete sets out there that exsist in one location.

For those of you who can help, I would appreciate some honest opinions.

I might consider adding a photo after I see where this is going.

Thanks in advance for the help!
Posted by: thermactor

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Fri Apr 29 2011 09:29 PM

Thanks - sounds much better!
Posted by: Chevrolet SS

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Fri Apr 29 2011 09:35 PM

Sorry, my intentions might have been perceived differently than I saw it. I have edited the post. Is this better?
Posted by: thermactor

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Fri Apr 29 2011 09:41 PM

By the candle-lit version, are you referring to the red crown with the hole and mounting flange in the top, or the totally different-looking "queen's crown" version from the teens with the chimney cap?
Posted by: Chevrolet SS

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Fri Apr 29 2011 09:49 PM

Hole and mounting flange in the top.
Posted by: K W FRITH

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Fri Apr 29 2011 09:54 PM

Theres a lot more than 7 when you consider all the variations and the lettered crowns! We'd need a picture to know what you're talking about. For instance-- I think the earlier version of the common Red Crown with the arrows along the bottom edge--versus the later one with the slashes, is worth an extra $100. In my opinion. Lots of variables-- not just colors.
Posted by: thermactor

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Fri Apr 29 2011 09:56 PM

It sounds like you've got the Red Crown swag lamp. From what I understand, it was made in the 1970s and was used in the offices of Standard stations. Their value seems to be a little less than a regular red crown.

In my opinion (which is probably worth what you're paying for it), the value of a full set of crowns would not exceed the sum of the individual globe values. In fact, I would expect somewhat of a quantity-based savings for buying all seven at once.

The values of the crowns do vary somewhat significantly by color (and style -- lettered or non-lettered). Oddly colored crowns (ie. green, blue, orange, grey, or red gold combo) with original paint will each command their own premiums over red, gold, or white.

Wes
Posted by: Lastgas15

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Sat Apr 30 2011 01:43 AM

There's the dealer crown(which actually came with swag hardware and a wood base so it could be used as a hanging light or a desk light). It's not really a gas globe, and not at all what I'd call rare.

Now for the crown as pump globes....

Red Crown with "slashes"
Red Crown with "arrows"
Red Crown with more dots around the lower band-very scarce
Red Crown with 7" flanged glass base-very scarce
"Red Crown" raised letters
Red Crown "Gasoline"
Red Crown "Gasoline" etched
Red Crown "Gasoline" etched, chimney cap-very scarce

"Red Crown Ethyl" white globe with red letters
"Red Crown Ethyl" red with white letters

"Solite" blue with white letters
"Solite" red with white letters-very scarce
Blue Crown "slashes"
Blue Crown "arrows"
Blue Crown with extra dots
I think theres a Blue Crown with 7" flanged glass base

Green Crown (there may be slash, arrow, and extra dot versions of these as well)

Grey Crown
Orange Crown-very scarce (one known and a well known collector that had seen it in person thought it was questionable if the paint was original or not)
Purple Crown-very scarce
Red and Gold Crown
Theres a Red and White Crown version listed in the globe book that I've never seen
White Crown, possible slash and arrow versions
Gold Crown

That's 23 versions for sure, and possibly another 4. There are probably more variations I haven't seen. Once you get past the very common crowns they cost much more than $300.
I'd be very surprised if anyone has every version. I'm not sure which seven crowns (including the dealer light?) you were talking about but I suspect there are many more collections with 7 or more crowns in them than what you've been told. I currently have five versions and I've had other versions in the past.
Posted by: Lastgas15

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Sun May 01 2011 03:33 PM

Just wanted to add that ANY crown globe with a 6" flanged glass base is a reproduction.

Repainting non lettered crowns greatly affects the value (negatively) VS one with original paint. A repainted original non lettered crown is worth about the same as a reproduction crown.
Posted by: maojunior

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Tue Dec 06 2011 11:11 AM

does anyone have any info or photos of what the purple crown looked like, please? Also, what years did they use it and what gas did it represent?
Posted by: maojunior

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Tue Dec 06 2011 11:13 AM

http://www.urbanremainschicago.com/index...pump-globe.html ..... only image I could find on purple crown was this link http://www.urbanremainschicago.com/index...pump-globe.html and another link that was just an article on purple transparent phony globe
Posted by: Old Iron

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Tue Dec 06 2011 04:34 PM

Thanks for the listing Lastgas.I knew of about 15 versions so yoy just added to my knowledge.Scott did an article in PCM awhile back on the crowns.What I noted ,if I remember correctly,is that the grey crown was diesel and the green was a tractor fuel.

I noted that because I chase diesel and collect "OLD IRON" as in tractors and trucks.Man,if I could get a green crown that might inspire me to grt another JD Mod A!!!
Posted by: Lastgas15

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Tue Dec 06 2011 05:49 PM

Originally Posted By: maojunior
does anyone have any info or photos of what the purple crown looked like, please? Also, what years did they use it and what gas did it represent?


I can't say for sure but I think the upper details were purple, and the band around the middle was red.
"Purple Red Crown" was a motor grade (sub regular)gasoline in the 1930's.
I don't think thats a purple crown in the link from your other post. It looks like a very oxidized red crown to me.
Posted by: maojunior

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Tue Dec 06 2011 07:10 PM

Lastgas, many thanks for sharing your knowledge your post here is a great checklist. Here is a link I found with a Purple Red Crown ad for cigars. http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/standard-oil-cigar-box-purple-red-131824674 ...pretty neat ...

lastgas, would a purple crown ever have been used in a chicago station? I think that photo doesn't show coloration best...i had additional photos sent to me, but on my girlfriend's computer and she is out of the country..i will try to post more here ASAP.
Posted by: maojunior

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Tue Dec 06 2011 07:17 PM

old iron, i think i saw a green crown go for $1600 somewhere on the net!

I have a red crown along with original box and address of station along with handwritten addy with standard oil name...also appears that first three portions of patent number on box in stencil letter match first three of patent on mounting collar. I think box also said 'Gray Advertisting Products'
Posted by: Maps for the memories

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Tue Dec 06 2011 10:22 PM

I parse that to read that the gasoline, not the crown, was dyed purple.
But, how recently was non-farm use fuel dyed? The cigar box shows the late '40s-late '50s version of the torch and oval. The "purple power" advertising sign I've seen dated from the '30s.

With Chicago so close to Whiting, I'd guess that the more unusual marketing would be in the Chicago area. By the Pure Oil research center in Crystal Lake was a frequently updated test market station. Such fun!
Posted by: maojunior

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Wed Dec 07 2011 12:15 AM

Maps, isn't that slogan great on that box? "A good gasoline is like a good smoke!'...can you imagine the uproar for similar advertising today! I concur it is quite fun putting all the clues together!
Posted by: Maps for the memories

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Wed Dec 07 2011 03:02 PM

I'm always amused when I see smoking items, especially matches, used to advertise gasoline.
"Here, try these together and see what happens!"

Another amusing cigar box I've seen featured the Milwaukee Public Library.
Posted by: maojunior

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Wed Dec 07 2011 05:43 PM

Maps, any links to the purple power ads of the 30s that you mentioned?
Posted by: Maps for the memories

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Wed Dec 07 2011 10:02 PM

No links saved, but I'll see what I can find. There was a picture on Oldgas of a roof rack sign with 3 sides and suction cups at Peotone last year, if I recall.

In the Duke collection pointed out in another thread, I saw a purple Pan-Am billboard (not in color) using the old sunburst Pan-Am logo. With the Pan-Am/Standard of Indiana connection, that's another clue toward the pre-WWII vintage.
Posted by: Dick Bennett

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Wed Dec 07 2011 10:25 PM

Quote:
roof rack sign with 3 sides and suction cups

I've got one, BUT they are 2 sided like a laying down V, made for the roof of car/truck. Has "it's Purple---it's Powerful", in the middle has a RED CROWN.
As w/ the link above it shows an advertisment picture, it advertises RED CROWN Gasoline as being PURPLE, Nothing mentioned about a PURPLE CROWN.
Posted by: Maps for the memories

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Thu Dec 08 2011 08:08 PM

I found the definitive article from the 4/5/1954 Chicago Tribune. Referring to the 4th:
...yesterday announced a new regular grade gasoline "with a difference you can see."
...said it had colored the product a "distinctive purple" to identify it as the gasoline with the highest octane rating for regular grade in the company's 65 year history.

So, I guess I was off on the dates and apologize for that. Now the Torch & Oval sign makes sense.
Posted by: maojunior

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Fri Dec 09 2011 10:46 PM



another pic of that crown...hard to see the true color...if it was oxidized red, wouldn't it be a blood red? This coloration looks lavender in places. Fascinating!
Posted by: maojunior

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Fri Dec 09 2011 10:49 PM

Also, that place is a architectural salvage company with access to some absolutely amazing finds in history rich Chicago. They have pieces of old theaters, for example, that are simply stunning. I am still trying to find out the exact station location where they located this. Again, the photo is not totally true to actual color.
Posted by: Lastgas15

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Sat Dec 10 2011 08:41 AM

That's a red crown.
Posted by: maojunior

Re: Standard Oil Crown Gas Globes - Sat Dec 10 2011 08:44 AM

how do you know, lastgas? By the styling? I defer to your knowledge, and I'm sure you have seen tons of these globes in various conditions. I'd still love to see a photo of a purple crown. Has anyone seen one in any of the books?