Veeder Root Rebuilds

Posted by: jkyocom

Veeder Root Rebuilds - Sat May 22 2010 04:53 PM




Rebuilt Veeder Root Computers starting at $150.00
Thanks
Joe
Posted by: baugie

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Sun May 23 2010 06:54 AM

Hi:

Do we buy these outright or do we need to send in the old ones for exchange?

Augie
Posted by: jkyocom

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Sun May 23 2010 08:04 AM


A core will need to be sent in.
Thanks
Joe
Posted by: SOUTHFLORIDAGAS

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Sun May 23 2010 09:27 AM

HOW SHOULD WE PACKAGE THEM:):0:0:0;)
Posted by: jkyocom

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Sun May 23 2010 09:57 AM

NO PEANUTS!!!!!
Have you ever tried to dig peanuts out of a computer???
Place computer in a bag pack tight w/ paper in a good strong box....unit will get damaged if not packed properly.
I cannot be responsable for parts broken if computer is not packaged safely.
I just don't have the time to deal with incomming damage claims.
Damaged parts due to shipping will be replaced, and you will be billed for them. Parts charges will not exceed $30.00...normally.

All 12" crankback computers will interchange w/ each other
There are about 3-4 different common models, you will need to send in a core and I can send a comparable rebuilt computer back.

I rarely sell computers "outright" = no core

Some have indented wheels, some have flat wheels,
flat wheels have to have decals, take more time and I charge $175.00 NOW
for a computer that has flat wheels due to the extra time it takes to get the decals right and the cost of the decals.
I have also recently discovered a design flaw in the computers w/ flat wheels that has illuded me over the years, and to fix this problem the head has to be dismantled.

Indented wheel computers are $150.00
prices do not include shipping

Any computer under 12" is $200.00
Thanks
Joe
...........I do not restore sheet metal....remove upper and lower & keep it before shipping your core
Posted by: tallgye49

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Sun May 23 2010 12:46 PM

Guys--

Joe is the best. He has done several for me.

Dave Folck
Posted by: Jarvis

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Sun May 23 2010 09:22 PM

Killer Veeder Root!!!
Posted by: oldgoaly

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Sun May 23 2010 11:06 PM

looks like they are multiplying......
Posted by: jkyocom

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Mon May 24 2010 09:19 PM

Order UP For Schilling!!!!



NEXT?
Posted by: MATT ALVAREZ

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Mon May 24 2010 10:29 PM

Wow, a front totalizer 8 inch. What does that go to? I thought all 8 inch computers were side totalizers.
Posted by: jkyocom

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Mon May 24 2010 10:58 PM

That computer above is a 1945 model #45 12" computer.

I had a buddy of mine look at the rough draft of my
ID book that I have already proof read.
We made some revisements in a paper booklet form and I have to
go back in a change a few things that were confusing....to him , not to me.
He doesen't know anything about computers or gas pumps so I thought he would be someone good to read it.
I will do that same test on someone else when I get the corrections made.
I hope to have it available soon.
It will cover Identification of every crankback computer I know of between 1932 and 1955.
Veeder Root apparently does not have this information.

This is a 1935 8" with price wheels....last model in an 8" size,
first model w/ price wheels.

big difference in the variator than the one above.


Posted by: K W FRITH

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Tue May 25 2010 08:42 AM

Way too cool Joe! An ID book is going to be great!
I didn't know there were ANY 8 inch VR's made with the front pricer wheels? I don't think I've ever seen one except for your picture! Like Matt said-- What models of pump would have used them? Thanks---KEVIN
Posted by: jkyocom

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Tue May 25 2010 01:16 PM

HEY !!!!!
Now I have to make another revision.
That was a good question that I have not even thought of.
I will add those pumps to the list of what this particular model
fits......Thanks

Matt's question was about a front totalizer 8" computer....
Those don't exist.
All 8" computers were side totalizer units.
Posted by: K W FRITH

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Tue May 25 2010 03:54 PM

OK, I reread it and saw he was talking about the 12 inch front totalizer unit that you had pictured. When you posted that picture of the 8 inch with the front pricer wheels, it suprised me as I had no idea that there was such a thing! Just my lack of knowledge on gas pumps!
I was curious as to what pump applications they would have been used on? If I knew, I would be watching for them.---KEVIN
Posted by: jkyocom

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Wed May 26 2010 08:57 AM

40-A wayne
34 tok
Aqua
Rush VC
national 10
Posted by: K W FRITH

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Wed May 26 2010 09:36 AM

OK! Cool!
Posted by: jkyocom

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Wed May 26 2010 12:16 PM



I have three rebuilt Model #49 computers with indented wheels in stock now.
They will fit anything that can take a 12" standard computer but were introduced in 1949.
Like for like exchange $150.00
does not include sheet metal or shipping
Thanks
Joe
Posted by: jkyocom

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Mon Jun 07 2010 01:13 PM

Did EVERYONE stop restoring pumps this spring?

I have this super-restored 1935, 12" computer in stock and for sale.
As far as I know it would have been in a 1935 WAYNE 60, OR a 1935 ERIE 53 ONLY.



This is the only 12" unit that does not have pointers for the money and gallon wheels.
The pointers were on the faces like the earlier 8" computers.

I used the best parts I could find when I restored this unit, some parts were polished in the tumbler.
This is some of my BEST work, fully functional, and worthy of a glass case.
If you have either of the pumps mentioned above, this is the only computer that should be in it from the factory.
The totalizer has good wheels and there is a bell included.
I also have the top sheet metal and it has been restored.

$300.00 outright + shipping
thanks
Joe
Posted by: jkyocom

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Tue Jun 08 2010 07:14 PM

Computer above has been sold.
Thanks
Joe
Posted by: jkyocom

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Wed May 18 2011 08:33 PM

I have resisted this as long as I could.
Due to the fact that almost everything I use to restore
& ship computers is made from petro, I am forced to raise
the cost of a rebuild.
All the materials I use have gone up in price in the last few years. frown
All rebuilds will now start at $200.00. This does not include sheet metal.

For the older 8" computers the cost may be more depending on condition.
Thanks
Joe
Posted by: DasFast1

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Wed May 18 2011 08:52 PM

Last I heard you had taken a break from 12 inch rebuilds are you back to full strength?
Posted by: jkyocom

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Thu May 19 2011 06:23 AM

Not back to full strenght yet,but I am feeling a little better.
Come to find out I have been suffering from a stopped thyroid for a few years. It has done some mean things to me all around.
Been on the meds since Dec. and I am slowly comming back to life.
Doc sez it will take about a year to get back to normal.

I am in the process of getting all my spare parts cleaned and ready before I start taking more orders. This may take a month or two.
During this time I will be doing a few "spec" computers and will be putting them up for sale.
The first one will be a #36 w/ silver wheels
thanks
Joe
Posted by: eric grinder

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Thu May 19 2011 08:16 AM

It's just great to know we have the best as an option still...good to hear you're getting your health back!
Posted by: DasFast1

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Thu May 19 2011 08:18 AM

Very glad to hear the good news about "...coming back to life"
Posted by: archer2

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Thu May 19 2011 09:22 AM

Glad to hear your doing better Joe.
Posted by: 1320Fan

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Thu May 19 2011 12:05 PM

Somebody sell me a 12" crankback pre 1949 for my National A38
prefer indented wheels and would like a bell. But can be flexible
I have 2 slamback (1950's three wheel) that I would like to be rid of.
Need to get in line at Joe's for the rebuild.
Posted by: Irish

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Thu May 19 2011 11:46 PM

Just getting started in the hobby and working on a MS80. How do I go about getting a rebuilt computer? Are there identifying marks or #'s so I know what to be asking and looking for? The one that is with the pump is in rough shape. Thanks for advice and assistance on how to proceed. Irish/Ralph
Posted by: foxlincoln

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Fri Jun 10 2011 09:42 PM

How much to rebuild a computer from a Wayne 511 Blendomatic?Thanks
Posted by: TILLER

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Sat Jun 11 2011 09:58 AM

Originally Posted By: jkyocom

The first one will be a #36 w/ silver wheels
thanks
Joe
And the lucky winner of that Computer will be me. Im stoked
Posted by: LC 336

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Sat Jun 11 2011 01:47 PM

Originally Posted By: jkyocom


I have three rebuilt Model #49 computers with indented wheels in stock now.
They will fit anything that can take a 12" standard computer but were introduced in 1949.
Like for like exchange $150.00
does not include sheet metal or shipping
Thanks
Joe


Joe, Will this fit a 36B and a Erie 91G?
Posted by: jkyocom

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Sat Jun 11 2011 04:46 PM

Thanks for all the well wishes guys
Doc told me : another rise in the meds, and I am far away from normal levels.
The meds have to be raised slowly, which sux, cause I am ready to be better,
I have too many things to do before I kick.

Foxlincoln....If I was to do one it will be expensive.
Since I have never done one , untill I do, I won't know what to charge. Also I have NO parts to repair the bottom. I have no idea HOW it is suppused to function.
I think Jack has a manual for that unit, you would have to supply me w/ a copy
Condition would be a factor and the fact that I would have to devote all my attention to that job so not to forget anything.

Tiller...I have yet to see your core arrive.
Mr Little got the one I had ready last week when he came through town. I do have wheels and stuff ready to rebuild yours

IRISH....Send a few pics to my email

LC 336....That is a 1949+ computer, 36-B is 1936+, Erie is 1938+
it will fit but is not correct for those year pumps. All models of 12" CRANKBACK
computers, 1935-1955, will interchange. The only difference would be the location of the totalizer.

Most of the time I rebuild computers like you would get a rebuilt unit at the auto parts....
you send in a core and get a rebuilt computer of the same model back.
That is on 12" models anyway. I keep 10-15 of my own cores to rebuild before yours gets here.
I don't have 8" or 10 3/4" cores, so if you send one in, you get the same one back.
I have lots of parts. Depending on what you need I may have it.
Some parts are abundant and certain parts are scarce.

Because of overhead, rebuilds START at $200.00 but depending on condition;
wheel, blinder, frame, etc. damage, or missing totalizers, face brackets, etc.
will constitute parts fees. Rust and corrosion will be a factor too.

I don't mind answering some questions about computers but I don't always have time to be on site.
I do have a CD that identifies & dates most if not all of the "CRANKBACK" computers.
1932-1955 There is no 1 document that contains this information.
Serial #'s don't mean anything to me since I have nothing to reference.
Veeder Root does not have that information.
All the information is from 24 years of rebuilding computers, and comparing parts and
searching through pat off records
And PLEASE!!!!,, by all that is HOLEY in Gaspumpdom, They are veeder root COMPUTERS wink
The METER drives the COMPUTER cool

Next year I will turn 50 and I will have been rebuilding COMPUTERS 1/2 my life shocked
There are about 1000 of my rebuilt computers out there, some are in service......
http://www.agilitynut.com/gas/ak.html
Wouldn't you love to get gas from a Wayne 60 cool cool cool cool

Joe.
Posted by: MATT ALVAREZ

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Sat Jun 11 2011 07:55 PM

Joe`s CD is great. If you do not have it you should get it. I read it all and looked at the pictures. If it were in book or booklet form I would look at it more offten than I do in CD form.
Posted by: jkyocom

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Sat Jun 11 2011 09:17 PM

If I could risk the $$$ I would have it in print.
It can be printed from your pc
Posted by: MATT ALVAREZ

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Sat Jun 11 2011 09:35 PM

Joe, I did not think about printing it. Good idea.
Posted by: jkyocom

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Sun Jun 12 2011 01:45 PM

That way when you wear it out you can print another.
I guess it is a good thing I didn't have it printed....I have not sold enough to cover production costs !!!
Posted by: kookeytalker

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Sun Jun 12 2011 05:48 PM

Joe, which computer type is in a Bowser 575 and if I send you my core what price would the rebuilt one be? Very interested, thanks.
Posted by: jkyocom

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Wed Jun 15 2011 07:03 AM

Because of overhead, rebuilds START at $200.00 but depending on condition;
wheel, blinder, frame, etc. damage, or missing totalizers, face brackets, etc.
will constitute parts fees. Rust and corrosion will be a factor too.
Posted by: jkyocom

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Tue Jun 21 2011 08:37 PM

I have one #49 computer w/ indented wheels up for grabs
For most pumps 1949-1955
thanks
Joe
Posted by: carzncoke

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Wed Jun 22 2011 09:01 AM

PM sent
Posted by: jkyocom

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Sun Sep 25 2011 06:19 PM

There are given names, usernames, email names. Doing business like this can get confusing. confused
In order to bring a little order to this problem:

1) When you send me an email about your computer, include your first and last name and address, and Your Name and "Computer" in the subject.

2) If your unit has flat wheels, I need to know what color background decals you want, and what price you want the unit to display.

3) Remove top and bottom sheet metal and the bell & clapper assembly. I do not have replacement springs for the bell assemblies.

4) I will require only two pictures of your entire computer without the sheet metal, close up, from these two angles.
These two pictures will tell me everything I need to know about your unit.



All of this information, in one email, will save us both a bunch of time and confusion.
Also, if you are shipping from a Shipping store, make sure your Name is in or on the box.
If it is not marked with your name, I don't know who it came from.

Thanks
Joe
Posted by: Scott Williams

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Sun Sep 25 2011 08:18 PM

Joe, how about the cost for a pair of computers for 2 Wayne 70s . I have original computers that are unrestored to exchange.

Thanks
Posted by: blacktee

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Mon Sep 26 2011 07:36 AM

Hi Joe

I still have a veeder root from my Tok 39 short, for you to restore. Hopefully in October my paint man will have it apart for me to take some photos and send it to you.

Hope the back gets better.

Doug
Posted by: jkyocom

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Mon Sep 26 2011 08:19 AM

Rebuilds start at $200.00
damage will be a $ factor if major parts have to be replaced.
Right now I am covered up.
thanks
Joe
Posted by: dundign

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Mon Sep 26 2011 08:46 AM

JOE-- Money is on the way-- THX TOM
Posted by: jkyocom

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Sun Dec 18 2011 12:11 PM



Please do not send computers w/ these types of devices on them,
they are not part of the computer. They are part of the on/off system. I do everything inside the sheet metal.

Sheet metal, on/ off devices (lockout) and gear trains need to be removed.
Thank you,
Joe
Posted by: Craig Osbeck

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Sun Dec 18 2011 12:31 PM

Joe, That computer is mine, sorry I did not know what not to leave on there. Please let me know how low to get so that you can kick me !! Let me know how much you need.
Thanks Craig
Posted by: Craig Osbeck

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Sun Dec 18 2011 12:31 PM

PS Did you like the box?
Posted by: tony garza

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Mon Jan 02 2012 08:07 PM

do you know whare i can find a metal shrowed for my veeder and is that required to mount add glass on a Neptune L1 Gas Pump?
Posted by: Dick Bennett

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Mon Jan 02 2012 10:39 PM

Sheet metal is just a dust cover, has nothing to do w/ ad glass.
Posted by: moonphone

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Tue Jan 10 2012 09:33 PM

how do i get the computer out to have it re-build by you? i'm a rookie and this is my first pump.
Posted by: JimT

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Wed Jan 11 2012 04:35 AM

Unbolt it.
Posted by: jkyocom

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Wed Jan 11 2012 07:16 AM

I have regular sheet metal but not like what you are describing.
Some computers can be tricky to get out after unbolting.
If you ship it pack it well or it will get damaged, double box, UPRIGHT. If it lays on it's side it WILL get damaged.
If you don't feel comfortable dropping it from 3', pack it better.
These things are HEAVY and are made of soft metal.
Thanks
Joe
Posted by: Craig Osbeck

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Wed Jan 11 2012 09:04 AM

Build a wooden crate and bolt it to the bottom. Helps if it has a handle on the top also. By the way, Thanks Joe it looks great.
Posted by: jkyocom

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Mon Feb 13 2012 04:40 PM

I have been rebuilding computers for 25 yrs now.
I have seen certain "trends" in the biz.
I am starting to see more flat wheel computers come in.
Having flat wheels, means "older" computers.
Older computers, means more wear & tear, more rust, more damages from mice, water, etc....but NOT ALWAYS.
Mouse nests and mouse poop in the Variator can get into the cone gear teeth, and total disassembly and sandblasting is the only way to get it clean.
Rust can be an issue also.

CONDITION will be the major factor.

If you have a normal used unit, rebuilds start @ $200.00.
If the Variator or Head have to be disassembled due to rust or mice, they will be sandblasted, painted and re-assembled.
In doing so there will be a $50.00 charge for the Variator and $50.00 for the head.
Sometimes the Head needs disassembly and not the Variator.
Sometimes the Variator needs disassembly and not the Head.
Sometimes both Head and Variator need disassembly.
MOST computers do not have to be fully diassembled, only the ones w/ "ISSUES" will need to have these steps taken.

Thanks to you all for your business over these 25 years.
Joe Yocom
Posted by: gaspumpdon

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Mon Feb 13 2012 06:08 PM

What is the "HEAD" and what is the "VARIATOR" Thank You Don
Posted by: Dick Bennett

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Mon Feb 13 2012 06:56 PM

Sq Head, Round Variator
Posted by: gaspumpdon

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Tue Feb 14 2012 05:05 AM

Thank You, Dick
Posted by: jkyocom

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Tue Feb 14 2012 11:54 AM

The HEAD (top) is just a counter w/ reset capabilities.
The VARIATOR (bottom) does the calculations.
Posted by: welikevettes60

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Fri Mar 02 2012 08:27 AM

I am just getting into rebuilding gas pumps, have 1 Tokheim 300, 3 tokheim 39's, 1 wayne 70. All need the computers rebuilt, Cost? where to send them? All at the same time? One at a time? etc, etc, Thanks for your time. Richard
Posted by: K W FRITH

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Fri Mar 02 2012 08:54 AM

Richard-- contact Joe thru his email---jkyocom@bellsouth.net
He's the MAN for rebuilds and can answer all your questions.

I don't think he's on here reading these pages every day.
Posted by: Andre Aga

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Sun Apr 15 2012 10:31 AM

Hello Guys!

Who makes such a beautiful restoration?
I have a Gilbarco 96 .. What does it cost to do an equally fine job with my VEEDER ROOT Computer ...
I need his contact information...

Thank You,
Andrč Aga
Posted by: Loyd Pierce

Re: Veeder Root Rebuilds - Sun Apr 15 2012 04:29 PM

oldgas member jkyocom-(aka-Joe) you can find his email in post on this topic.