Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign

Posted by: powerlube

Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Tue Sep 04 2012 06:07 PM

Never seen one sell:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OLD-Pathfinder-G...=item5ae9465c7a
If you have the coin to bid please cut and paste the id below:
90460759162
Posted by: advertologist

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Tue Sep 04 2012 06:34 PM

killer graphics- 2500.. cool
Posted by: KZ1000

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Tue Sep 04 2012 06:35 PM

reserve not met
Posted by: Craig Osbeck

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Tue Sep 04 2012 06:41 PM

It will not meet reserve, $10,000.00
Posted by: rustynuts

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Tue Sep 04 2012 07:46 PM

That'll be an e-bay fee & a half.
Posted by: Gas globe guy

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Tue Sep 04 2012 07:47 PM

I will guess 8,000
Posted by: Dick Bennett

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Tue Sep 04 2012 07:55 PM

$6,000, I agree Reserve will not be met [very few of his ebay auctions are]. Condition is not there, but Rarity is.
Wasn't this the same sign that was at Columbus this year?

A Member here has one in much better condition.
Posted by: junknjohn

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Tue Sep 04 2012 08:34 PM

I think the one in Columbus was also in better condition,but I could be wrong.
Posted by: philmccauley

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Tue Sep 04 2012 08:36 PM

It looks alot like the one from Columbus, plywood and all.
Posted by: Signs&Neons

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Tue Sep 04 2012 08:40 PM

like 95% of the items listed with it - Reserve Not Met - or auction ended early........
Posted by: TheRoyalCrown

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Tue Sep 04 2012 08:49 PM

Amistadi listed a lot of rare and desirable signs in the last week or so, starting them all at $9
Posted by: hotcidr

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Tue Sep 04 2012 10:49 PM

This is the same sign that was at Columbus for, I think, $7500. That one had the plywood as well. I put out a pretty high bid, certainly not $7500 and it jumped only $50.
Richard always comes up with some killer signs and this is one of them
Posted by: Wes Hague

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Wed Sep 05 2012 07:18 AM

yep same sign,,, he turned down my offer of $5K at Columbus,
Posted by: Cold Pizza

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Wed Sep 05 2012 08:00 AM

Nice sign.
He's got a nice '50's Wurlitzer Juke for sale.
Wish he was closer,but his reserve is probably more then I'd give for it anyway.
Posted by: bustermonty

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Wed Sep 05 2012 08:07 AM

I looked at the one in Columbus and I don't think it's the same sign. I had a disagreement with Amistadi long ago and won't deal with him or I would call to find out.
Posted by: bustermonty

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Wed Sep 05 2012 08:12 AM

Just checked again. It looks like it could be the same one but cleaned up.
Posted by: Signs&Neons

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Wed Sep 05 2012 08:26 AM

I looked through a number of his listings and they were all reserve not met, doesn't matter what you start at in that case....$9 or $900 opening is all the same with reserve. He does have great signs, and it is certainly his option on how to sell them. I just find it funny how quickly after listing many of them get bid up so high?? I have also seen cases where signs are bid up to JUST under the reserve so the next bid meets reserve and often buys it. That's not right in my book.....
Posted by: bustermonty

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Wed Sep 05 2012 08:45 AM

Welcome to Amistadi 101 schools in session.
Posted by: GasCan

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Wed Sep 05 2012 10:07 AM

You know what kills me....it's when a guy goes and lists a couple dozen signs, and the industry related forums go abuzz concerning the listings of an individual. What I dislike is when people start insinuating that the seller is shill bidding to bump the price, or when some people start to question the sellers integrity when perhaps they don't even know the seller personally?

Yes the seller is Rich Amistadi, yes he has the nice stuff, and yes he has the rare stuff, but knowing that...you should also know he has the buyers and doesn't need to play with the bids. He sells stuff all the time, and if you really want to know what it's worth, just pick up the phone and call him. Chances are he'll tell you exactly what he wants for a particular piece, and if you want to step up to the plate and own it, then I guess it's worth what one is willing to pay.

I like his signs, but I dislike it when people that might not even know him start making cheap shots. Show me the book you've written? Show me the 20 wicked signs you want to sell at one time via eBay and we'll see how the other shoe fits. Enough with the cheap shots already...if you wanna own it, buy it. If you don't want to own it, then leave the cheap shots out of the post.

There are enough buyers out there with interest that this and many others in his auctions will sell. He has the nice stuff, and he'll find the buyers. Simple as that.
Posted by: bustermonty

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Wed Sep 05 2012 10:17 AM

Don't skip class. Pay close attention.
Posted by: Wes Hague

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Wed Sep 05 2012 10:17 AM

Maybe you haven't been around the game long enough
Posted by: GasCan

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Wed Sep 05 2012 10:39 AM

I give up. Some of threads are starting to sound like a bunch of old women that just look for something to bitch about.

I'm out.
Posted by: Esse's Garage

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Wed Sep 05 2012 07:24 PM

That Harley sign on the cast iron sign hanger looks real fishy. I would stay clear of that one for sure!!!
Posted by: mattthegasman

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Wed Sep 05 2012 08:13 PM

Originally Posted By: bustermonty
Don't skip class. Pay close attention.
EXACTLY ! LOL
Posted by: Signs&Neons

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Wed Sep 05 2012 09:08 PM

Maybe I said too much? If so, I apologize. I often hear on this forum how we are to help the new guys out and teach them - look out for each other. Guess that's what I was trying to do - without REALLY spelling it out in black and white. I'm no expert, and haven't written any books - but I do have 20+ years experience in this hobby and I'd like to think I've learned a thing or two. I've dealt with this individual in the past, and I choose not to now. I also have several friends in this arena who have learned the same lessons and made the same choice. You, of course, are free to do otherwise. Yes, he has outstanding signs, and yes, some of them do sell. Just seems to me and a few other seasoned collectors who have posted on this topic that the means to the end are somewhat in question, to put it kindly. It doesn't matter to me that he sets reserves and doesn't reveal them (many do this and I see nothing wrong with it). As you say "He has the nice stuff, and he'll find the buyers," I was just trying to help out some fellow collectors here by making sure their eyes were wide open to the whole process - or "the rest of the story".....
Posted by: powerlube

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Wed Sep 05 2012 09:35 PM

Back to the guessing...rare sign but it's big. I think it a 6500 sign that will not meet reserve at 9k
Posted by: Dave's Garage

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Thu Sep 06 2012 01:36 AM

Nice sign with killer graphics. Rarity of sign supercedes size issues. Being a reserve auction, all it takes is one serious bidder.
Posted by: Serialist

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Thu Sep 06 2012 01:49 AM

Where was this company based out of? Pathfinder not amistadi. Were they from the northeast?
Posted by: Dick Bennett

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Thu Sep 06 2012 02:04 AM

Southern Calif.
Posted by: Old Iron

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Thu Sep 06 2012 11:06 AM

To me,one of the best things about Oldgas is that it presents a forum where members with actual experience in certain situations can post a gentle warning without "really spelling it out in black and white".

I think this thread is very tame relative to those seen in the past and to what some of us could post if we really wanted to post "dirty laundry"that we have witnessed and/or experienced.I know could in both cases.

As I see it,some of the guys are simply saying to take care.
Posted by: Signs&Neons

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Thu Sep 06 2012 11:33 AM

exactly Old Iron - thanks!
Posted by: Dick Bennett

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Thu Sep 06 2012 01:47 PM

Where else can you get World Wide Exposure for a Minimal Listing Fee?
Item doesn't have to sell [high reserve] on ebay, but with his clientele/followers it will sell outside of ebay & w/o a Final Value Fee!
Posted by: Wes Hague

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Fri Sep 07 2012 08:10 AM

$10,800 RESERVE NOT MET,,,Yet, WOW<<<<
Posted by: Craig Osbeck

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Fri Sep 07 2012 10:46 AM

Who called the $10,000 without reserve met ? Where in the world are these buyers when I need them?
Posted by: Gas globe guy

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Fri Sep 07 2012 10:54 AM

I thought the bidding would stop? Oh well, I bet the reserve is either 12,000 to 15,000
Posted by: Craig Osbeck

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Fri Sep 07 2012 05:53 PM

Look what is happening to some of the other auctions now, no longer available. School is still in session people.
Posted by: Esse's Garage

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Fri Sep 07 2012 07:04 PM

If you want to know what the reserve is just put a bid in for 20K then if you meet the reserve just revoke your bid, I have had it done to me a couple times a few years back. Is it the right thing to do, probably not. But Shill bidding isn't right either but it happens all the time!!
Posted by: Craig Osbeck

Re: Any guesses on the final price? Pathfinder Sign - Sat Sep 08 2012 11:15 AM

It seems to be gone.