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3 Pennzoil Signs
#608595 Wed Apr 15 2015 12:11 PM
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Of these 3 signs, the one on the left is different than the other two. Which is older? Does the topper on the center one remove? Any other comments are welcome. Before I started collecting signs, a guy I know that closed his station sold one for $25 last year.

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Re: 3 Pennzoil Signs
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The top doesn't remove. I believe the left one is the oldest and most of these Pennzoil signs are dated at the bottom.


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[quote=Mike M.] I believe the left one is the oldest quote]

full bell is oldest... cool


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Thanks, I will try to win that one. I thought the opposite. I will look at the dates when I get there.
Jim

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I was told that when pennzoil is over a complete bell that it was an older sign around the mid to late 50's and when the bell is split it is a later dated sign

Re: 3 Pennzoil Signs
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Yes,
I would say the left is the oldest but I doubt you will not find a date on it. I have that sign, and it is not dated. Randy also has a very nice one. Randy is your dated?
Also, it is not just the oldest, but if you look at the font style on the upper and lower lettering, you will notice it is more of a block style relative to the other two.
You will find many "full bell" signs that do not have this block style font. So don't think this font change only happens with the bell split.
I believe this block style font was used on the earliest of the oval signs.

Going by old advertisements which I have at home, the bell split happened right around '56-'58 if I remember correctly.

Nice little collection there. If the price is right, get them all. A would think with a little barkeepers friend the two on the right will clean pretty nice. Unless the far right one is painted.

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mine is not dated, one side of sign on bottom reads:
property of pennzoil company
ING. rich. Beaver Falls Pa.
Made in U.S.A. ... cool


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Both of these pictures show what I think is a very early oval sign. Sorry the pics not better.
Although a little tough to tell, I believe you can see that these signs have the blockier type font. And on these the text lines are straight and horizontal. They hadn't moved them to follow the border of the sign yet.
None the less, and this is only a theory, I believe the sign in these pics evolved into the sign on the left above, which then evolved into the signs with the more decorative font.
Just a thought.

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I recently bought this one and there is not a date either. This one seems newer than the far left one, but has the full bell.

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Jeff

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I saw this at an antique store yesterday. The curb stand seems completely incorrect in shape and age. Correct me if I am wrong...they were very proud of it too...listed at $1295.

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pennzoil sign of subject:
sign of subject the
100% pure pennsylvania & safe lubrication
appear smaller whick I agree with Jeff
is the earlier sign, Jeff's latest purchase
matches the half bell 100% pure pennsylvania & safe lubrication size... cool

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Not to step on any feet but this is my sign and it is dated 1-55 my question why the black outer boarder? the ones pictured do not.

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Re: 3 Pennzoil Signs
krupp13 #608780 Fri Apr 17 2015 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted By: krupp13
I recently bought this one and there is not a date either. This one seems newer than the far left one, but has the full bell.

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Jeff

I like this one! Nice sign!!


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Re: 3 Pennzoil Signs
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This one dated 1958. Split bell. Oldest piece of evidence I have of the split bell. And you see Scotts full bell above dated 1955. Need something '56 & '57.

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Re: 3 Pennzoil Signs
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Not to change the subject but what is the right sign frame that goes around my sign I just got a base and what 2 make a frame for it? But it looks like there is a couple ways. anybody now for sure? or does it matter? Thanks Scott


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