#59995
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I have a question. In another post about Capco bodies, someone explained the difference in a reproduction body and an original. I thought these "reproduction" bodies were being made using the original molds. Here is my question. What if you found the original mold of something (such as Ron Scobie did with the Master oil bottle spouts) and made items from that mold, are these reproductions or originals? Jack Sim Author, Gas Pump Identification book and Air Meter Identification book Need gas pump literature? www.petrolianacollectibles.com [This message has been edited by Jack Sim (edited 08-21-2007).]
Author, 1st & 2nd editions of Gas Pump ID book, 3rd edition is now available at www.gaspumpbible.comAir Meter ID book also available
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#59996
Tue Aug 21 2007 10:47 AM
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Straight from dictionary.com,
re·pro·duc·tion –noun 1. the act or process of reproducing. 2. the state of being reproduced. 3. something made by reproducing an original; copy; duplicate: a photographic reproduction; a reproduction of a Roman vase. 4. Biology. the natural process among organisms by which new individuals are generated and the species perpetuated.
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Looking for anything from Hoosier Pete, Platolene 500 and Red Bird.
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#59997
Tue Aug 21 2007 11:03 AM
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I see it if you poured the plastic into the mold in say 1940 its original but if you poured the plastic into the SAME mold today its reproduction....hmmmm....OK.
Wanted early tin litho signage. petro, farm, auto, etc.
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#59998
Tue Aug 21 2007 11:23 AM
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#59999
Tue Aug 21 2007 11:25 AM
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But it's not the same plastic, they use different compounds in the 40's then they use today.
Brian
Always looking for SKELLY items.
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Tue Aug 21 2007 01:53 PM
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Wanted: Gas pump globes:Sinclair & affiliates, IL companies. Ripple bodies. Anything Sinclair, Stoll, Pierce, 4 Bros. http://www.lastgas15.com/
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Tue Aug 21 2007 01:55 PM
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I guess if you look at Jarvis's post,dictionary definition line #3,there can only be one original period.Therefore any mass produced item,after the first one,is theoretically a reproduction!!So the world is FULL of reproductions!Pat.
Looking for early Pure Oil Company items(Energee,Detonox,Puritan)as well as any Woco Pep items.
Looking for graphic quart cans for my collection.
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Tue Aug 21 2007 02:13 PM
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Jack's statement about the "mold" is not quite correct. I tell my customers that these are reproductions made with the original machines since some of the dies were worn out or lost.
The Capco bodies are all Repos.
The face plates, ID tags, stainless trim, Eco parts and cast iron parts that I make are ALL reproductions. Ron
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Tue Aug 21 2007 02:53 PM
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If it's old, it's old. If it's not, it's not.
The reason that I collect is primarily the age of the items I collect. The fact that they survived as long as they did, and the fact that they have history behind them are what interests me in the items. And, of course, I like how they look, but looks are not all there is to it.
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2nd generation original??
They are making DeLoreans again with original tooling and refurbing old ones.. and they have the DeLorean name!!!
So what are those???
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#60007
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In the body shop business, much noise has been made in the last decade over aftermarket replacement parts. Insurance companies often specify their use to hold down costs rather than Original Equipment Manufacturer parts. Some aftermarket parts are unusable junk, while some are near perfect reproductions.
Another wrinkle is that some original equipment manufacturers like General Motors are out-sourcing the production of some replacement parts overseas. They still say Genuine GM Parts, but are made far from the original factories. Last week we had a GM Parts composite headlamp assembly that would not bolt up right. Turns out it was made overseas, while the original version was made here. They measured different.
Reproduction copy or genuine OEM? Hmmm.
Jim "Oldgas" Potts Your host and moderator
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Tue Aug 21 2007 10:56 PM
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Original Capcolite body (white) about $40, colors as much as $125, maybe more for the rarer colors.
Repro Capcolite body (any color) $15.
That pretty much tells the story.
Wanted: Gas pump globes:Sinclair & affiliates, IL companies. Ripple bodies. Anything Sinclair, Stoll, Pierce, 4 Bros. http://www.lastgas15.com/
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Wed Aug 22 2007 03:50 AM
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Original; something made [back then] for use [back then] Reproduction; something made[today] to use in place of or as a replacement for something made back then.
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ROD [Mich.]
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