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Morphys internet bidding #667845
Sun Oct 02 2016 05:25 PM
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I bid using proxibids platform because I like it better than Morphys new platform. I bid live on one item and had proxy tell me I won it and then say an in house bidder won it for the same price I bid. I had this happen in previous auctions. So I left bids on 6-7 items, as I had other obligations, and logged off. When I returned I pulled up my proxy page which shows what I bid on, what I bid and what it sold for. Well I'll be damned if two items sold for the same as my bid to an in house buyer. Mind you I placed these bids hours before the in house bids took place. This is straight up bull ***** and in house favoritism. Along with the increasing premium, the whole experience has soured me from wanting to continue doing business with Morphys. I have been their customer for probably 10 yrs. But when there is such blatant disregard, it's time to pull the plug.

Re: Morphys internet bidding [Re: Tom R.] #667853
Sun Oct 02 2016 06:09 PM
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Tom, I totally agree with you on this subject,
there's too much "manipulation" by this auction house
sellers & buyers alike are better off dealing privately
they have no regard for either seller or buyer.. ... cool


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Re: Morphys internet bidding [Re: Tom R.] #667856
Sun Oct 02 2016 06:12 PM
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Can't tell you how many times this has happen to me, they don't care. Guess they feel if you made the auction in person, then you should get it.

Re: Morphys internet bidding [Re: Tom R.] #667864
Sun Oct 02 2016 06:35 PM
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Well the house rule is the floor bidder wins! So please get some cheese for your wine!

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Re: Morphys internet bidding [Re: Tom R.] #667872
Sun Oct 02 2016 07:00 PM
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Its not that straight forward as the "floor wins". I lost an item a while ago with the same circumstances except I put my bid in two weeks ahead. The auctioneer recognized the floor bid as equal to mine and therefore the later bid was given precedence over mine. Like in the IP letter above the only bid where that happened was on the final bid. In other words all bids before were recognized in a logical step wise fashion. When I phoned to inquire I was told the same..."floor bids have precedence".
I still bid there. Where are you going to find some of those items?

Re: Morphys internet bidding [Re: Tom R.] #667873
Sun Oct 02 2016 07:04 PM
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I like Dan but Morphys is horrible, I never buy from them or Mecum. I like Glenn millers auctions, Girrard, and love the 15%bp at Rory Brinkmanns auctions.


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Re: Morphys internet bidding [Re: vmc44] #667887
Sun Oct 02 2016 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted By vmc44
Well the house rule is the floor bidder wins! So please get some cheese for your wine!


Well Thank You So Much!!

Re: Morphys internet bidding [Re: Tbirdgas] #669024
Sat Oct 15 2016 07:15 AM
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I also got burnt on that . Have known the owner of auction house for years but he does not like any bids that are not in the room . Left a couple of bids due to the fact I could not get off work that day and found out latter the items sold just under my bid . So I give up on Internet biding.


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Re: Morphys internet bidding [Re: Tom R.] #669062
Sat Oct 15 2016 03:42 PM
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Auction houses love the fact that the internet can boost prices, but also love the fact that the person in the room can deliver an instant payday minus the hassle of shipping an item or waiting to see IF a buyer will pay. 9 times out of 10 they will take the in house buyers money. Hooray internet!
Paul

Re: Morphys internet bidding [Re: Tom R.] #669124
Sun Oct 16 2016 07:05 AM
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LOL..Paul.


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Re: Morphys internet bidding [Re: Tom R.] #669251
Mon Oct 17 2016 12:12 PM
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There is no way for the auction house to prevent this from happening. They take bids from LiveAuctioneers, Proxibid, Ebay, Auctionzip, their own platform, and then live day of the auction bidders. Those pre-bidding systems don't communicate with each other. So if the auctioneer is working two floor bidders he is going to see hands in the room go up before he is going to get a notification from a computer clerk running a system. You can't take it personally. If you don't want to miss out then you need to bid live. There is no way around it.


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