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Fellow collectors I need help. I plan on erecting a steel building this spring. Primarily to wrench on cars and display my petro collection. Size: 30 x 40 (or 50). Have any of you had tremendous results with a particular company or terrible results with another?? I plan on erecting it myself so I can go with a company that can drop ship. I think I have it narrowed down to a couple of companies but wanted some input from my collecting brothers.

There is a steel building company located here in Colorado that is under investigation by the Feds, I would definitely steer clear of them. They take your $ and never deliver the product. Check with your local BBB before making a decision. Good Luck!

I have two pole buildings built out of pressure treated lumber and sheet tin. They are great, inexpensive and easily added on to. The lumber is available at any lumber yard. The tin can be picked up locally too. If I were you....I'd stay away from the metal frames and do wood. Just my opinion....

I build both steel and wood frame unless you are experienced with steel framing DON'T! Just my 2 cents.
NW OHIO? born in Montpelier

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Ohio Oil, a couple of years ago, I was considering a steel building too. I found a website for a company that sold them, but for the life of me, I can't remember their name. Anyway, on this website, you could actually design your own building. Pick a size, add doors, windows, skylites etc. and it would build on the screen in front of you. Pretty cool. Anyway, I designed my building, and it was around $40k that was delivered. Then I called the company and asked them what it would cost to have it erected. The salesman said that a rule of thumb is "what ever the building cost you to buy, it would cost approx. the same amount to have erected. That was for the concrete floors, site grading and the labor for the erection.
As it turned out, I decided I didn't want a steel building look on my property, so I designed a wood structure.
Just thought I'd share my experience.

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Don "oltoydoc" Sherwood
Vintage Gas

Ohio Oil.... One thing you might want to think about is that very few people after putting up a building thought it was too big.
If you can afford it and have the room make it bigger than you think you might need.
Have talked to alot of guys about this and they all wished they would have made theirs bigger.... just a thought.
bob

Out our way i think metal buildings are Morton buildings .... mortonbuildings.com but mostly only people do them for commercial purposes... most "people" use pole barns i guess out here.

HERE IS A LINK FOR METAL SHOP KITS AND PARTS.
NOT SURE IF ONE IS CLOSE TO YOU BUT THEY HAVE PICTURES AND PRICES ON THERE WEB SITE....HOPE THIS WILL HELP.....AARON
http://www.muellerinc.com/

Do what ya want, mister Ohio Oil, but wood is GOOD! I put up a "pole barn",40x150, insulated, with finished concrete for less than $50k and I LOVE it.
More bang for the buck than steel, and I looked at it this way---it'll outlive me!

I'll send you pictures if you're interested.

Mike in TN

Well Ohio Oil, Here goes my input and my what I did. I was going to erect my own (building that is)but had it done in the end. It's two years old so here is the price and all. I called and got 4 bids and checked out there work. I was going to build a 40 x 60 and my wife said go bigger. Go bigger is the first piece of advise you should do if you have enough room. Right now I wish I would have gone 40x100. I purchased the 40x 80. Most steel building I checked into like 20' increments depth and length. I had a 6 inch slap poured for strength as I do the car repair thing also. Make sure you put in the light panels in the roof. I have 3 roll up doors 13'6" tall opening. RV's and stuff. 16' eves are super. Hang large signs and stuff. 2 doors are 14' wide and the other 16' wide. One walk in door. No windows for security my option. Had it rough plumbed for bathroom. Had insulation installed on the panels. Turn key operation was 48K slab and all. I did all the electircal, framing inside for bathroom, all the plumbing, and even a tile floor and stain grade trim. It is a Metallic building and I checked out me putting it up and it just wasn't cost effective for me. 16 feet up is a long way on a ladder. Better have a fork lift at least. Lots sheet metal screws also. Hope this helps. Need any pics I could send them. Remember no such thing as too big on a building. Ted

Ohio Oil: My story is like Teds.. I looked at Pole barns and had some local farmers tell me that they had had some problems with them twisting and moving over time?? The price was not that much less than going with a quality Steel Buliding.. So I chose a 40 X 60 from a company called Allaince from Oklahoma City Ok.. Great to work with. All steel building are sold by the pound so when you see these bulidings advertised cheap be careful with what you are getting.. Mine has three 12 foot roll up doors.. These are really nice because the do not take up ceiling space or cover the lights.. I had it put up because 14' walls were a little more than I could handle.. It cost $2.50 sq foot to do it! I also did all the plumbing, electrical and installed radiant heat. 6" floors for the same reason as Ted.. My mistake was not buliding it larger.. But these bulidings can be added on to very easily.. Mine cost me about $36K with a large drive way complete.. Good Luck
Ric

Hey "Ohio Oil", I must have been brain dead or something. I forgot that one of our fellow collectors sells steel buildings. He ships anywhere, and as far as I know is cheaper than anyone. Call Dave Bowman at (909) 770-2281
Remind him that you heard about him on this site.

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Don "oltoydoc" Sherwood
Vintage Gas

I got the following price quote from a local company that specializes in metal buildings with wood support structure. The company is located near Charleston, WV. I'm not sure if they would travel to northern Ohio.

30'x40'x10' Post Frame Building
1' Overhang
T-111 on interior walls
R19 insulation throughout
Drywall on ceiling
3' entry door (1)
9'x7' insulated garage doors (3)
Two bays with scissors trusses
One bay with attic trusses
4" concrete floor
Block foundation
Solid white color on exterior metal panels

$28,000.00

Note that this does not include electrical, plumbing or HVAC costs. I've seen several of their structures and the workmanship is very good. I will probably have this vendor build my garage later this year.

Jim Winter

It matters not, what you build...
It is not big enough.
Build it bigger than you think you will ever need...
It is not big enough.
Cover every inch of the area you have...
It is not big enough.
Words of wisdom from;
"been there.. done that"



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Frank

Briefly, here's whats I am in the proces of doing and 90% complete. I took 2- 40'steel storage containers, set them 12' apart and poured a slab in between them. I then framed a 10' extension out the front, set 12/12 pitch trusses on top (45 degree pitch) which gave me an upstairs of 14' wide X 50' long. I put a metal roof on top and covered the ends with barn red metal. I then painted the containers to match the red metal. Then I put an 8' X 50' lean-to on both sides. I have 2900 square feet covered, did it all myself (no labor cost) and it cost around $15,000.00. You can't tell it's built on two containers, darn it, this sucker looks like a genuine barn. Good Luck!! Neal Dunn g