#28815
Thu Jan 25 2007 03:53 PM
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I would like to hear from the members about any old station sites and historic brands that were in Montana. I work for the Montana DOT (MDT) and part of my job is investigating historic gas stations facilities--we just removed a riveted steel plate underground storage tank yesterday that was installed at a small town garage before 1916. Too bad the hand pump had long dissappeared. I have started a collection of photos and information which I would like to add to and share. If you can provide any Montana related photos, history, and information it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Brian
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#28816
Thu Jan 25 2007 04:59 PM
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Hi Brian, Welcome to Oldgas.com Shop Talk.
If you need help with posting photos you already have here on Shop Talk, just ask. I can help.
Hope you find more interesting Montana petro history.
------------------ Jim "Oldgas" Potts Your host and moderator
Jim "Oldgas" Potts Your host and moderator
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#28817
Thu Jan 25 2007 06:17 PM
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Hey, Brian. I am in your neighborhood. Let's see, old gas......(stretching the memory cells in the brain)
Power Gasoline (former Montana Power) Litening (Billings) Laurel Leaf (Billings Area) Grizzly Arro Gas (Lewistown) Powerized (Sunburst Refinery) Montana Chief (Wash/Ida/Mont) Clack (Havre) H. Earl Clack, Heccolene bought out by Husky Oil in the 50s. Carter Oil (bought out Grizzly and then was bought by Enco/Exxon) Glacier Gas What have I forgoten????
More "main stream" brands I remember in Montana.
Texaco (the best--it's what I collect) Phillips 66 (Refinery in Gt Falls) Mobil Enco/Exxon (Refinery in Billings Conoco (Refinery in Billings) Standard Oil Union 76 (Refinery was in Cut Bank) Chevron
In addition there were lots of mom and pop gas stations that bought gas where ever they could.
There are a few old gas stations in Butte that are now being used for other things. Great looking cottage style gas station on Park uptown.
Tom AKA Alex
[This message has been edited by Alex (edited 01-26-2007).]
Alex Looking for Texaco and Power Gasoline items
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#28818
Thu Jan 25 2007 06:46 PM
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GREAT POST ALEX,, YOU PRETTY MUCH GOT-R-DONE.. WHATS OLD " GAS GEZZER" UP TO?? TELL HIM HELLO.. FROM FRANK..<<<<<>>>
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#28819
Thu Jan 25 2007 06:52 PM
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Hey T-Bone. Have not talked to Les in a while. He is probably out making another great find.
Alex Looking for Texaco and Power Gasoline items
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#28820
Thu Jan 25 2007 07:11 PM
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I have a Wasatch map on ebay #280074246464 which mentions Silver Gas being sold in Montana...Ron
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#28821
Thu Jan 25 2007 09:01 PM
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Silver Gas......good catch, Ron. And I have a small Silver Gas piece inmy collection. they were in Great Falls. What else did I forget???
Hart Gas out of Missoula
Monoco... (Montana Oil Company)did canning in Helena. I know they had gas as I saw some Ad glasina Tall Tokheim 39 withit in it.
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Alex Looking for Texaco and Power Gasoline items
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#28822
Fri Jan 26 2007 03:18 AM
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I recently discovered that the Transcontinental Oil Company (Tulsa, Ok.) was expanding into Montana before their buy out by the Ohio Oil Company in the Late 1920's to early 1930's. Chuck
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#28823
Fri Jan 26 2007 09:35 AM
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chuck. I have never seen anything on them. Wonder if they just became Standard Oil when they were purchased? i posted a picture of a can the other day from the Mututal Oil company that had Missoula, MT printed on the side. But, I don't know if they were associated with any gasoline brand.
Alex Looking for Texaco and Power Gasoline items
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#28824
Fri Jan 26 2007 12:26 PM
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"investigating historic gas stations facilities"
Brian sounds like your in the enviromental business and on the look for underground storage tanks from the old stations/stores. Does the state pay for tank clean up?
Wanted early tin litho signage. petro, farm, auto, etc.
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#28825
Fri Jan 26 2007 03:14 PM
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Alex; This is the only evidence that there were stations in Montana I have. I have never seen any company literature telling of it. I saw a Green and Cream colored matchbook (Transcontinental Oil colors) sell on ebay also that had a Montana address, that is how I know they had them before the Ohio Oil bought them out. Couldn't tell you who they might have sold out to. Chuck [This message has been edited by Gaspedler (edited 01-26-2007).]
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#28826
Sat Jan 27 2007 08:31 AM
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Hey Frankie, Thought you disapeared form the frozen south Idaho. There were close to 100 independent tries at gasoline marketing in Montana, Probably more than any other state. Possibly Pennsylvania or Texas had near as many. Out of all of them only a few had any real lasting luck at it. After the war they were about all bought out by the big companies. A few held on such as Husky by sheer determination. Some of the most rare and graphic signs and globes are found here but in relatively sparse numbers. Tom outlined a bunch and there were lots more but few examples are ever available for sale or to be found...........Les
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#28827
Mon Jan 29 2007 11:08 AM
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Thanks for all the information. If anyone has Montana related Peltrolia or station e-pics please feel free to forward them to me at bgoodman@mt.gov. FYI-there is a very good 2-part article in Montana Magazine on the history of petroleum refining in Montana that appeared in Spring/Summer 1998.
There was a mention of Husky in one reply. They were originally based out of Wyoming until they sold off most of their U.S. assets and retreated to Canada. They later re-entered the US market and also aquired Earl Clack's operations in the mid-1950s. They continued to operate many stations in MT until the early 1970s and of course are still widespread in Canada. Thanks. Brian
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#28828
Mon Feb 12 2007 09:06 PM
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Brian, I have some H. Earl Clack station surveys with pictures and inventories of some stations in Montana and Idaho that were taken just before and during the time that Husky bought them out. But like minuteman I am kind of curious as to why you want them.... you never really answered his question. bob
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#28829
Fri Mar 14 2008 10:18 AM
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Sorry I never got back to respoding to the questions in the post. One of my jobs with the Montana DOT (MDT) is to research historical gas stations particularly those adjacent to our right-of-way, prior to construction activities. This is primarily for environmental concerns such as subsurface leaks from the tank and dispenser systems. Also we often expanded our right-of-way and purchased portions of these properties and for legal reasons we need to know where the dispensers and buildings were located. Often we have no records and there are no local historical records especially in the smaller towns in Montana. Also we have a department historian that may be able to help preserve the station if it meets certain criteria. I hope someday that we can incorporate one of these historic properties into a roadside park with a restored station. I am sure it would be a tremendous public attraction. Also I ultimately would like to put together a road guide to historic stations in our state. There is a H.E. Clack station in Saco, MT (US 2)that is on the national historic register, but I believe it is still in private ownership. Thanks for any information or photos you can provide. Brian S. Goodman Montana Department of Transportation Environmental Services 2701 Prospect Ave. P.O. Box 201001 Helena, Montana 59620-1001 406-444-7632 bgoodman@mt.gov
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