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Re: integrity [Re: hri_2008] #563808
Wed Aug 27 2014 05:25 PM
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What about those people that call about something you yourself have for sale. When you tell them it is sold they respond saying they would have paid more. I get that all the time. They just try to bring you down.

Please use For Sale forums to sell

Please - NO offers to Buy or Sell in this forum category

Statements such as, "I'm thinking about selling this." are considered an offer to sell.
Re: integrity [Re: hri_2008] #563854
Wed Aug 27 2014 07:26 PM
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So true


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Re: integrity [Re: Craig Osbeck] #563859
Wed Aug 27 2014 07:42 PM
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Dang, sorry to hear that


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Re: integrity [Re: bsplichal95] #563869
Wed Aug 27 2014 08:03 PM
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if you don't have your word,you have nothing...I have made many deals here on old gas and 95% have honored there word,,,guys like lotsakegs,etc. etc. however there were 2 deals that after the deal was made and they swore to it, they sold it for more to the next guy...beware of (********** SS) & (****ibby).......they will screw you in a heartbeat...

Oh, i forgot to mention there are a couple more HERE who will lie cheat and steal from you, however they never got the chance with me.....

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Re: integrity [Re: roadrelics] #563876
Wed Aug 27 2014 08:28 PM
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OR the FEW that keep making offers on item[s] you have that was NEVER Offered For Sale.

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Re: integrity [Re: Dick Bennett] #563908
Thu Aug 28 2014 04:28 AM
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I got a completely different take on this one.....you actually had a craigslist seller call you back and tell you the item sold on another venue and that is was no longer available???

That's a nomination for craigslist seller of the year. What would be unethical is if he let you load up the truck and drive to his house expecting to pick up the pump and it was gone.

A craigslist deal is not a done deal until you pay for the item and drive away. Not really sure how long it's going to take for that reality to settle in with some of you.

I don't see that the seller did anything wrong on this one.

Re: integrity [Re: Ohio Oil] #563911
Thu Aug 28 2014 04:52 AM
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i guess people have different opinions on this and mine is, when you tell somebody something on the phone, email, in person that is "your word" and if you don't uphold it, you have nothing........i have made many deals on the telephone and have also been offered more money after the deal i made, however i sold it to the guy who i first told i would sell it to, for less......DB got it right $$$$=integrity

Re: integrity [Re: roadrelics] #563914
Thu Aug 28 2014 05:00 AM
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We don't know the seller...he might be an average guy like us. It's very plausible he just flat out forgot to check what the pump was doing on his ebay listing. I suppose none of you ever forget things like that.

The fact that he called back right away and explained his dilemma and said he was sorry leads me to believe he must have some integrity. If he would have said I'll sell it to you for 500 and then screwed the ebay buyer out of the pump for 800, that guy would have started a thread on here that ebay sellers are unethical because they end auctions early.

Now, could he have mentioned he had the pump listed elsewhere on his craigslist ad...sure. But the fact he didn't mention it doesn't make him unethical. The only people that bitch about this stuff are the ones who didn't get "the deal"

Re: integrity [Re: Ohio Oil] #563917
Thu Aug 28 2014 05:11 AM
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This seems to be a trend today.List something for sale on CL and eBay or wherever at the same time,and see what brings more money.
I had a nearly identical situation,but I bid & won it on eBay and the seller said he just sold it locally on CL.
Thought that was odd as he had to pay the ebay listing fees,but he said he did.


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Re: integrity [Re: Cold Pizza] #563948
Thu Aug 28 2014 08:45 AM
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When it's not your deal, it's easy to side w/ the one You want.

Re: integrity [Re: Ohio Oil] #563949
Thu Aug 28 2014 08:51 AM
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Ohio Oil,

I read your posts over & over ...

Man, you write well!

Hen

Re: integrity [Re: henlovestoys] #563976
Thu Aug 28 2014 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted By: henlovestoys
Ohio Oil,

I read your posts over & over ...

Man, you write well!

Hen


Where one lays their support or sympathy is usually indicative of how they would conduct themselves in a similar set of circumstances.

I agree with the position taken by roadrelics.

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Re: integrity [Re: Dave's Garage] #564027
Thu Aug 28 2014 03:00 PM
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Seems the only posts I get in on are one like these, guess It's because I'm no expert "yet" on gas and oil stuff but do try and live my life in such a way that when I die people will at least say "he was a good man" LOL. This guy made a mistake, period... not a ethical one or one based on greed...just a mistake. He should have mentioned he had a eBay listing, he should have checked to see if there were any bids before agreeing to deal verbally but he didn't, that was a mistake. When he did realize his mistake he did the only thing he could, apologize and do the right thing let the listing ride. I completely agree a man is nothing more than his word, and a verbal agreement and handshake is concrete in my book however in this instance because of his mistake (we can only hope it was a honest mistake) his verbal agreement has to take a backseat. Once he had a single bid he was involved in a legal contract with that bidder, if he were to end auction and cancel bids he would not only be breaking his word but breaking a legal binding contract (although it's NEVER enforced!) He did the only "right" thing left he could do which is honor the legal contract and admit fault/apologize. Some could argue it was not a mistake, that he was only looking for top dollar and he wouldn't let the auction keep going if bid was only say $200...That we'll never know but I like to look for and hope for the best in a person and would like to keep thinking this was just a honest mistake....JMO


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Re: integrity [Re: 63shelby] #564029
Thu Aug 28 2014 03:14 PM
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ebay seller knew exactly what he was doing by listing on CL & ebay at same time, MAXIM ADVERTISING, seller feedback #3705. Anyone w/ that many transactions is in it for the $$$$$. Ebay opening bid was high than CL Price.

Re: integrity [Re: Dick Bennett] #564049
Thu Aug 28 2014 04:46 PM
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Most of us here buy and sell and use various venues to do both, I do. However once you list an item on Ebay and have bids, the ethical thing to do is see it thru. The seller should NEVER have listed items on Ebay AND other venues at the same time, that is just asking for trouble.
As buyers when we make a deal we should at minimum get a downpayment to the seller right away via Paypal or whatever so the seller knows you're a serious buyer. I have been stood up by buyers that promise to "be there on Saturday" and never show up. My personal pet peeve is the guy who drives from two states away to purchase something and then wants to write a personal check.
When an agreement is made it should be honored. This seller put himself in a bad situation that was not going to end well.

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