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#100035 Fri May 25 2007 06:34 PM
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Well I volunteered for “of the month” feature and was asked to do globe of the month. I will host GOTM every month on the 25th. I want to start with the different types of bodies made as we have many new collectors that might not know the difference.
Capco bodies is where we will start.
Some new collectors think capco bodies are reproductions which isn’t true. Capco bodies came out in the early 30’s. The early bodies actually had a right and left half unlike the later bodies which the right and left are the same. Early bodies at the top where the screw goes is different. There are many colors out there. I will post pictures of the differant style of capco bodies.


Looking for anything from Hoosier Pete, Platolene 500 and Red Bird.
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Looking forward to this... Thanks John

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#100037 Sun May 27 2007 08:41 AM
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Here is the late style capco verses the early style capco. Early style on the right dates to the mid 30's.



Repop bodies and old bodies?
When you look through the bottom of a capco the lenses have notches at the 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock areas. There is a plastic piece in the bodies that line up the lenses. Originals will have 2 notches and repop's will have 1.




I will get more into capco lenses verses glass body lenses when we cover the glass bodies in the next day or so.


Any questions on capco bodies before we move to glass bodies?


I want to say thanks to Bob (lastgas) he kept me from going out to the garage and taking my globes apart to get a picture. Affraid i would break something? LOL


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#100038 Sat Jun 02 2007 08:06 AM
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I had an e-mail from an oldgas member wanting to see some colored capcos and a wide body capco. Phillips was the biggest user of wide capco bodies. I don't have any colored capco bodies besides blue and red and green. Any body has and Capco globes to share please do so.


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I have 2 white Capco bodies that I had thought were original. Both came with original lenses in them, at least one the lenses been in them since the 60,s or longer.

They are both hard plastic, but the lip at the top does not go all the way across. I think the notches are as described for the repro on here.
Is there a chance that the Capco tooling had changed to this style on the original hard plastics, and then ended up in use for repros later??

How far back does anyone know of repro Capco's being made, and if they are made from the real molds would they not simply be a later production original??

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The fisrt capco's were made of a harder material. They are the ones where the halves are different as shown in John's post. The old style capco's were made in 1932-33. They are much more ridgid and often discolored.

All original capco's both new and old style have two locating tabs in each half. This goes for the old style wide capco's too.

The repro bodies have one tab per half. That goes for both the ones marked Capcolite like the originals, and those without the any markings. Its possible that there are repro's with 2 tabs ber half but I've never seen one.

Doesn't matter if they are made on original molds or not, a repro is a repro!

Maybe someone can post a picture of a repro capco showing how they only have one tab per half.


Wanted: Gas pump globes:Sinclair & affiliates, IL companies. Ripple bodies. Anything Sinclair, Stoll, Pierce, 4 Bros.


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If anyone doesn't have a repop capco to send me I will take one of mine apart and get a photo. I will post a photo of a repop capco then if there aren't anymore questions then we will move to glass bodies. These will take some time! So many people get confused on glass bodies.


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Here you go JJ, don't want you to take any of your globes apart and start the curse up again. Richard

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I have 2 white hard plastic bodies, which were described as original.

At least 1 has single notch, both have lip going 1/2 way from bolt indent.( I edited and changed that on my first post)

At least 1 of them has 3 (evenly spaced over 5 or 6 in)casting marks like shown in the middle of the last pic, but around 3/4" in dia.

Any chance there was another variation?

How old are these, and are they repro? I have had someone that has had a lot of globes tell me they were original.

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Frank,
Your globes are the later style (looking at the top the lip only goes half way across) which is more common.

Look at the picture Richard posted. You can clearly see there is only one locating tab. If your bodies look like that they are clearly reproductions.


Wanted: Gas pump globes:Sinclair & affiliates, IL companies. Ripple bodies. Anything Sinclair, Stoll, Pierce, 4 Bros.


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#100045 Tue Jun 05 2007 06:38 PM
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Starting glass bodies.
First is a regular narrow glass body.


Next is the same version but wide glass body.


Looking at them from the side.


People have asked how do you tell the difference between the repop and originals. There is no difference! The originals have no consistency on weight so weighing them doesn't work. Some try to guess buy the dirt or backed oil on them, some old caulk or rust on the bottom but other wise just looking at them you'll never know.


Next is a reg. glass body but with a screw on base. Narrow bodies with screw bases were 6" but wides are 7". I don't recall seeing any wide 6" base globes.


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This is a reg. gill body. Screw base gill looks just like but with a screw on colar.
Notice the metal "clamp" style ring that holds the lenses. When mounting lenses you need to watch as the ring only fits on 1 way because the way it's made.
Ripples are gill bodies and look the just like this... only difference is rippled.



This is a hull body.
Notice the 2 screws that hold the lenses and not rings.


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Just in case you thought all globes were made by Cincinnati Advertising.


1927


1927


1925

Jack Sim
Author, Gas Pump Identification book and Air Meter Identification book www.petrolianacollectibles.com


Author, 1st & 2nd editions of Gas Pump ID book, 3rd edition is now available at www.gaspumpbible.com
Air Meter ID book also available
#100048 Tue Jun 05 2007 08:56 PM
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More globe ads:


1931


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1925

Jack Sim


Author, 1st & 2nd editions of Gas Pump ID book, 3rd edition is now available at www.gaspumpbible.com
Air Meter ID book also available
#100049 Tue Jun 05 2007 09:00 PM
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More globe ads:


1926


1925

Jack Sim


Author, 1st & 2nd editions of Gas Pump ID book, 3rd edition is now available at www.gaspumpbible.com
Air Meter ID book also available
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