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I may be a newbie here but I have been restoring computers for folks for 20 yrs. I also have worked as a pump mechanic from
1981 to 1994 and have the knowledge to rebuild almost any type of meter, pumping unit, nozzle, air eliminator. Last year I build 2 computers and two meters for Wayne 60
pumps that are going to dispense gasoline retail !!??!! But it took six meter cores to come up with enough good parts for two good meters and the cost of the gaskets, leather piston cups,etc. added up close to $100.00 ea. Thanks........Joe

what does it cost to have a veederroot rebuit

ward

$150.00 w\ core exchange for 12"(standard)
$200.00 w\ core exchange for 10", 8"
don't send sheet metal,don't package w/
"peanuts". Pack tight with paper.Shipping
not included.$25.00 core charge for irreparable damage or missing parts.
Thanks........Joe

WOW _ that is very cool! I am sure you will have a GREAT ton to rebuild as the computers get harder to find in working shape!

I tried to rebuild one and never got it spinning correctly - it would work and roll back but would land on 083 every time!

Man that was hard and I would never do it again!


Thanks for the info - I have your number and name in my notebook!


Travis E. Towle
Topeka, Kansas

785-357-1004

Oh man! You guys have to see the work this guy does! THEY LOOK LIKE NEW AGAIN!!!

He is also working on a "WORKING" clock face conversion computer!!! MAN THE PICs he sent me are GREAT!!!


Travis E. Towle
Topeka, Kansas

785-357-1004

An assembly line MUSTANG painted to look like a SHELBY, will always be an assembly line MUSTANG, NOT A SHELBY.

IF, you want to see the hands move, use a battery clock motor.
db

I can set up the clock either way.....bottom drive or crank drive.....sure either way It's not a true clock but it is a lot better than static hands...I myself am a true pureist.If you ever bought a computer from me you would know that. That is why I designed this unit using as many Veeder-Root parts as possible.But people like to play with their toys. These clocks can be set up to use the motor drive that Mark Sconyers was making, Or to utilize the reset crank .
I just thought people would like to show off the function of the clock without having to open the pump or spend another $100.00. this clock has a 20 to 1 ratio a battery clock is 12 to 1
thanks.... Joe

Clock motor makes a NICE clock.

Man that is a GREAT deal for a converting pump to a clock face - Dick says "put in a standard clock" yea that sucks. A 12 hour clock is a 12 hour clock - but to each his own.

I have owned several pumps that were originally dial pumps that someone switched to a standard computer - always wanted to put in a clockworks - but you can never find them!

This is a GREAT item for that matter!


Travis E. Towle
Topeka, Kansas

785-357-1004

Yeah, I know about missing parts... it took me 3 yrs to find a 10" computer for a Tok. #36 I restored...or the Tok.#34 bottom panels I never found...sold the pump, or the Erie clock I never found....sold the pump.
I have done some more research and it seems Scobie offers national B-38 , and Bennett 77
clock faces I assume these would work for A-38 and 76??? If everyone stayed inside the box we would never have monster trucks,ultra-light aircraft, hot rods. With this unit you can at least come a lot closer to restoring a converted ( to computer)clock pump back to normal or just have fun.... you could make a Tokhiem #300 into a clock with the right face modification. With this unit and the #36-B clock faces you could make a Nat. 62 into a clock.....Even though it never existed
it would still look sweet.
Thanks.......... Joe

To me this would get the pump back to what it originally was - "if it was a DP" and then changed... UNTIL - you can find the correct computer - if you ever do. I was looking for the last 4 years for a DP computer for my t-36b and never found one, then sold the pump this last month... GRRRR.

I was looking over his standard rebuilt computers and they are GREAT - I hope he will post a picture here of them?


Travis E. Towle
Topeka, Kansas

785-357-1004

I'm rebuilding the pump mechanism for a wayne 615. Any ideas on acquiring new or rebuilding pump cups?
regards, Mike Francis

Most of the cups for meters and pumps were leather.Dean Bennet supply co.Has leathers up to 4" dia. I did a search for leather cups and found them Quick.........you might find more companies searching for
"leather cups" If you aren't going to pump gas out of it "close" should work. I don't know what diameter your cup is....Sevice Station Lifts also use leather cups.
thanks ....Joe

Hi. Merry Christmas. Looks like we'll do some business on those Veedor Roots!!! TY for posting. Been looking for someone to do a couple for my personal pumps. Can you send me your address and phone number? Dave Folck

I have been putting Joe's rebuilt computers in all my restored pumps for years..His computers look like new and really make the final touch to any restoration..we order 10 to 20 at the time..I have prob 10 in stock waiting to go into restored pumps..Give him a try, Joe does a Great Job!!!

Mark Sconyers...Memories Restored

Thanks for all the praise everyone.
In order for me to keep my prices down I don't restore the sheet metal that covers the computer.It will be the same for the clock. It is best to take all 5 peices off 3 on head, 2 on variator, place computer in trash bag...pack tight w/ paper. If computer rocks during shipping it could severly damage the thin aluminum wheels or break totalizer\face bracket ears..pack tight!!
Also I have stopped rebuilding the totalizer
( the unit with the two 1" banks of wheels)
Due to the inavailability of readable wheels.
I now disengage the gears gut the unit and cover the unit with a card that will resemble good wheels. Also because the totalizer and gear train is the first place these things try to lock up, because of the complexity of the gear teeth

Thanks............ Joe

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Ok I have image shack....I have pics. can someone give me instructions on how to get from file to page???? They have to be so easy, even a cave man could do it....
I know more about V/R than PC.....Joe

I followed these instructions, they worked for me:
http://www.oldgas.com/shoptalk/ubb/help.html

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pic in previous post is before.As long as the frame is good ,I can restore it.#34 Tokhiem computer after restoration,


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Is it possible to convert a large computer frame to a small frame? A 36B computer to fit a 34

It can be done, I have done one.... I would have to charge way too much.and I don't want to do another.I am producing
a clock unit that will fit in it's place.
I know how hard the old computers are to find, that is why I came up with the 8" clock. It will fit #34 Tokhiem, Wayne 40, 50.
These are the only pumps I have seen this 8' computer in, although I'm sure others could have had it.I am going to post a pic of it soon...Thanks ....Joe

Joe,
Nice work! Will your 8 " clock have the means to mount in a Wayne 40 that is missing the computer without much fabrication? What about faces?

Thanks, Rob

In the pic you will see the clock is made from a computer... it will fit any pump that origionally took an 8" computer. I think the center shaft will have to be at different positions for 6 and 9 wheel faces... I need to do more research.
I have had many inquiries about my clock.I don't know if they ever made a #34 or 40 or 50 clock but I made the 8" for someone to be able to put something that works into a pump that was missing the 8" computer.If someone who is making faces would contact me, I could give them specs. for the Wayne and tokhiem, 6 and 9 wheel faces.I don't have all the bugs out of the faces, but the clock works fine! All of this is do-able, it might just take a little more time. I released it a little soon on purpose...to see if there was enough interest to go into production....The demand has been so great...I am making parts for 100 units to begin with...I have had inquiries for at least 25 12" units so far.That is 25 sets of faces that someone will sell
..25x$40.00=$1000.00..100x$40=$4000.00

I am still waiting on the 866 trim to get here to reproduce them, and should have the "pan" for the 36-B faces ready within 2 weeks...hopefully...Thanks.....Joe

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I think you are going to have to modify the 866 bezel. I dont think it will be deep enough to contact the face if you made youre clock the same width as the veeder root. I belive the clock was a bit wider 1/2-3/4 of an inch if I recall. That or you can space youre faces out off the computer.
Brandon

I had someone install a unit in a 60.
He said with the origional 866 trim, it worked fine. Actually the clock is 12 1/4"
That would only leave 1/16 on each side if that.It has been years since I restored a 60 and I have never restored an 866 any help like this is greatly appreciated.A small strip of felt could be attached on outside of face trim to block any sight or light. I would like to make the trim "dual purpose". I guess a peice of 1/16" cardboard behind each face would work as well. There will be enough room for that behind the rear hand plate for the face to come forward. The rear hand plate is slightly undersized from the face hole.The pics I have posted so far have had Wayne hand set-up. I have similar to origional for Tokhiem as well.
Thanks for the info......Joe

Here is a pic of a Wayne 60 METER. I rebuilt a couple of these dinosaurs for pumps that are going to retail gas in Alaska.
It took 6 cores to get enough good parts to rebuild 2. I was able to find a place that had the dies for the gaskets, Used A.O. Smith
meter cups.I had Doug at Meters Inc. in Cartersville calibrate them for me.