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#109408 - Tue Feb 07 2006 08:04 AM Polly can need help
roger cherry Offline
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Registered: Thu Jul 04 2002
Loc: Collierville, Tn
Ok can collectors, I was thinking about bidding on this can on ebay. My gut says ask you guys. I don't have a ton of cans and would like to increase the size and quality of my collection but I am not sure on this one. It does not look right to me and the bids are low on a $1000 can. The colors look off to me and the wear on the edges does not match the lack of wear on the body of the can. I am thinking it may be a viynl label or something. Any input would help. Thanks

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#109409 - Tue Feb 07 2006 08:05 AM Re: Polly can need help
roger cherry Offline
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Registered: Thu Jul 04 2002
Loc: Collierville, Tn

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#109410 - Tue Feb 07 2006 09:54 AM Re: Polly can need help
Signal Gas & Oil Offline
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Registered: Sun Jun 06 2004
Loc: Lodi, CA.
I was checking this can out also and the tail feathers either are discolored or a terrible camera flash. I emailed the seller and asked if it was a wrap or real can and the only reply was real can. His other items are real but I am staying away from this one. I have the other two Polly cans and waiting for a decent Prem to come up. I don't think this one is worth $1000. Maybe $450 if real tops. I don't see a refund policy either. My 2cents. Ted

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Ted Pam & Ethyl Roach
Lodi CA.
Looking for Signal, Hancock, Mohawk, Douglas, Gilmore and Richfield
pca-west.org

[This message has been edited by troach (edited 02-07-2006).]
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Ted Pam Ethyl & Polly Roach
Lodi CA.
209-210-8971
Looking for Signal, Hancock, Mohawk, Douglas, Gilmore and Richfield

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#109411 - Tue Feb 07 2006 09:59 AM Re: Polly can need help
pollyman Offline
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Registered: Mon Sep 15 2003
Loc: California
I am by no means a quartcan expert. I have looked at the pictures of various original polly quartcans and have compared it to a fake that I purchased from earlyman34 a few years back just for this purpose. The key seems to be the feathers on the tail of the bird. All original polly cans that I have seen have a parrot with certain markings on the feathers of the tail that are similar. The fakes seem to have more of a random pattern on the tail feathers. Now this is just my assumption, but I think the can is fake. It looks identical to my polly prem can that was purchased from earlyman 34. I will try to come up with some pictures later. Any other input would be greatly appreciated. Hope it helps. ~Jason
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~Jason

6 ft signs & rare pump plates Signal, Hancock, Mohawk, Polly, Flying A, Douglas, Richfield, PDQ, Stinker, Beeline, Neon , Dealership.


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#109412 - Tue Feb 07 2006 10:54 AM Re: Polly can need help
Seth Robbins Offline
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Registered: Thu Dec 21 2000
Loc: Guthrie, OK. 73044
Roger...here's a picture of the Polly quart that is in my auction, maybe it will help.

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#109413 - Tue Feb 07 2006 12:03 PM Re: Polly can need help
pollyman Offline
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Registered: Mon Sep 15 2003
Loc: California
Here is an original:




Here is my fake (bad picture - this is the only camera i could get a hold of today):



All the original cans have tail feathers that you can see distinct vertical black parallel lines that are continuous. The fake cans have tail feathers thatare more random. The rest of the feathers on the parrot are different as well, but they are diferrent on even the original cans. The only way I can tell is by the tail feathers. Hope it helps. ~Jason
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~Jason

6 ft signs & rare pump plates Signal, Hancock, Mohawk, Polly, Flying A, Douglas, Richfield, PDQ, Stinker, Beeline, Neon , Dealership.


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#109414 - Tue Feb 07 2006 12:03 PM Re: Polly can need help
59fairlane Offline
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Registered: Wed May 18 2005
Loc: Interlaken, NY
Wow,

That's a close one.

I put the two pics side by side. If the ebay is a fake and Seth's is real then it's a pretty good fake on ebay.

Minimize both pics and compare side by side.

I agree, the ebay pics could be better.

You would think if it was real they would take care to take good pics and more than two, from far away at that.

Too many questions I guess.

Just my two cents.........
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#109415 - Tue Feb 07 2006 12:09 PM Re: Polly can need help
59fairlane Offline
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Registered: Wed May 18 2005
Loc: Interlaken, NY
Just noticed something.....

What about the top of the wing near the head? Seems to be a diference there in teh details between the fake cans and real cans.

Also what about the end of the stick that teh bird id on? Any difference there?

Just an observation.

These are tough cans to tell apart.....
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Always looking for Ithaca Gun and Lucky Sam soda items!!!



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#109416 - Tue Feb 07 2006 08:36 PM Re: Polly can need help
roger cherry Offline
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Registered: Thu Jul 04 2002
Loc: Collierville, Tn
Thanks for the help guys, I think I will just be safe and stay away.

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#109417 - Tue Feb 07 2006 10:10 PM Re: Polly can need help
Chevelle SS Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Sun Oct 30 2005
Loc: Tyler, Texas
If I ask a seller a question about a $400 item and the only response is "real can" with no further explanation, I'm for sure staying away.
You would also think he would post much clearer pics.

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#109418 - Tue Feb 07 2006 10:44 PM Re: Polly can need help
pollyman Offline
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Registered: Mon Sep 15 2003
Loc: California
yeah it's a real can alright, it just happens to have reproduction decals on it.
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~Jason

6 ft signs & rare pump plates Signal, Hancock, Mohawk, Polly, Flying A, Douglas, Richfield, PDQ, Stinker, Beeline, Neon , Dealership.


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#109419 - Tue Feb 07 2006 11:06 PM Re: Polly can need help
Seth Robbins Offline
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Registered: Thu Dec 21 2000
Loc: Guthrie, OK. 73044
Roger...just wait til the 18th when you can hold one in your hand...plus it's still full!

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#109420 - Tue Feb 07 2006 11:09 PM Re: Polly can need help
pollyman Offline
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Registered: Mon Sep 15 2003
Loc: California
Buyer alongrider ( 331) Aug-13-05 10:51 7174071036

Alongrinder (the seller of this can) won an auction from earlyman34 on Aug 13, 2005. Don't know if it was the Polly Prem can, but that can sure looks identical to my fake earlyman 34 can. Doesn't prove anything for sure, but even makes it more suspicious. Just thought I would share.
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~Jason

6 ft signs & rare pump plates Signal, Hancock, Mohawk, Polly, Flying A, Douglas, Richfield, PDQ, Stinker, Beeline, Neon , Dealership.


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#109421 - Tue Feb 07 2006 11:12 PM Re: Polly can need help
thermactor Offline
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Registered: Wed Apr 27 2005
Loc: Decatur, IL
Jason,

That's what I was going to say... Of course it's a can, and it exists, so the guy is technically not lying. Sounds Clintonesque to me...

Has anyone asked for clearer pics?

Wes

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#109422 - Wed Feb 08 2006 09:44 AM Re: Polly can need help
thermactor Offline
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Registered: Wed Apr 27 2005
Loc: Decatur, IL
Here's a repro Polly Penn with straight tail lines.
http://cgi.ebay.com/AWESOME-POLLY-PENN-O...1QQcmdZViewItem

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