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Polly can need help #109408
Tue Feb 07 2006 07:04 AM
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Ok can collectors, I was thinking about bidding on this can on ebay. My gut says ask you guys. I don't have a ton of cans and would like to increase the size and quality of my collection but I am not sure on this one. It does not look right to me and the bids are low on a $1000 can. The colors look off to me and the wear on the edges does not match the lack of wear on the body of the can. I am thinking it may be a viynl label or something. Any input would help. Thanks

Re: Polly can need help #109409
Tue Feb 07 2006 07:05 AM
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Re: Polly can need help #109410
Tue Feb 07 2006 08:54 AM
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I was checking this can out also and the tail feathers either are discolored or a terrible camera flash. I emailed the seller and asked if it was a wrap or real can and the only reply was real can. His other items are real but I am staying away from this one. I have the other two Polly cans and waiting for a decent Prem to come up. I don't think this one is worth $1000. Maybe $450 if real tops. I don't see a refund policy either. My 2cents. Ted

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Looking for Signal, Hancock, Mohawk, Douglas, Gilmore and Richfield
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Ted Pam Ethyl & Polly Roach
Lodi CA.
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Looking for Signal, Hancock, Mohawk, Douglas, Gilmore and Richfield
Re: Polly can need help #109411
Tue Feb 07 2006 08:59 AM
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I am by no means a quartcan expert. I have looked at the pictures of various original polly quartcans and have compared it to a fake that I purchased from earlyman34 a few years back just for this purpose. The key seems to be the feathers on the tail of the bird. All original polly cans that I have seen have a parrot with certain markings on the feathers of the tail that are similar. The fakes seem to have more of a random pattern on the tail feathers. Now this is just my assumption, but I think the can is fake. It looks identical to my polly prem can that was purchased from earlyman 34. I will try to come up with some pictures later. Any other input would be greatly appreciated. Hope it helps. ~Jason


~Jason

6 ft signs & rare pump plates Signal, Hancock, Mohawk, Polly, Flying A, Douglas, Richfield, PDQ, Stinker, Beeline, Neon , Dealership.

Re: Polly can need help #109412
Tue Feb 07 2006 09:54 AM
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Roger...here's a picture of the Polly quart that is in my auction, maybe it will help.

Re: Polly can need help #109413
Tue Feb 07 2006 11:03 AM
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Here is an original:




Here is my fake (bad picture - this is the only camera i could get a hold of today):



All the original cans have tail feathers that you can see distinct vertical black parallel lines that are continuous. The fake cans have tail feathers thatare more random. The rest of the feathers on the parrot are different as well, but they are diferrent on even the original cans. The only way I can tell is by the tail feathers. Hope it helps. ~Jason


~Jason

6 ft signs & rare pump plates Signal, Hancock, Mohawk, Polly, Flying A, Douglas, Richfield, PDQ, Stinker, Beeline, Neon , Dealership.

Re: Polly can need help #109414
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Wow,

That's a close one.

I put the two pics side by side. If the ebay is a fake and Seth's is real then it's a pretty good fake on ebay.

Minimize both pics and compare side by side.

I agree, the ebay pics could be better.

You would think if it was real they would take care to take good pics and more than two, from far away at that.

Too many questions I guess.

Just my two cents.........


Always looking for Ithaca Gun and Lucky Sam soda items!!!


Re: Polly can need help #109415
Tue Feb 07 2006 11:09 AM
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Just noticed something.....

What about the top of the wing near the head? Seems to be a diference there in teh details between the fake cans and real cans.

Also what about the end of the stick that teh bird id on? Any difference there?

Just an observation.

These are tough cans to tell apart.....


Always looking for Ithaca Gun and Lucky Sam soda items!!!


Re: Polly can need help #109416
Tue Feb 07 2006 07:36 PM
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Thanks for the help guys, I think I will just be safe and stay away.

Re: Polly can need help #109417
Tue Feb 07 2006 09:10 PM
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If I ask a seller a question about a $400 item and the only response is "real can" with no further explanation, I'm for sure staying away.
You would also think he would post much clearer pics.

Re: Polly can need help #109418
Tue Feb 07 2006 09:44 PM
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yeah it's a real can alright, it just happens to have reproduction decals on it.


~Jason

6 ft signs & rare pump plates Signal, Hancock, Mohawk, Polly, Flying A, Douglas, Richfield, PDQ, Stinker, Beeline, Neon , Dealership.

Re: Polly can need help #109419
Tue Feb 07 2006 10:06 PM
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Roger...just wait til the 18th when you can hold one in your hand...plus it's still full!

Re: Polly can need help #109420
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Buyer alongrider ( 331) Aug-13-05 10:51 7174071036

Alongrinder (the seller of this can) won an auction from earlyman34 on Aug 13, 2005. Don't know if it was the Polly Prem can, but that can sure looks identical to my fake earlyman 34 can. Doesn't prove anything for sure, but even makes it more suspicious. Just thought I would share.


~Jason

6 ft signs & rare pump plates Signal, Hancock, Mohawk, Polly, Flying A, Douglas, Richfield, PDQ, Stinker, Beeline, Neon , Dealership.

Re: Polly can need help #109421
Tue Feb 07 2006 10:12 PM
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Jason,

That's what I was going to say... Of course it's a can, and it exists, so the guy is technically not lying. Sounds Clintonesque to me...

Has anyone asked for clearer pics?

Wes

Re: Polly can need help #109422
Wed Feb 08 2006 08:44 AM
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Here's a repro Polly Penn with straight tail lines.
http://cgi.ebay.com/AWESOME-POLLY-PENN-O...1QQcmdZViewItem

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