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#109423 - Wed Feb 08 2006 10:15 AM Re: Polly can need help
pollyman Offline
Veteran Member

Registered: Mon Sep 15 2003
Loc: California
Wes,
Clintonesque. I like that. Excellent description of what is going on.
You're right, that ebay fake does have more vertical lines in the tail, but the detail in the lines is missing. You would be surprized how real the fake I have looks. It has the greese marks small scuffs and wear areas that look very natural. Without touching the can and trying to peel of the label with you finger nail, you could not tell it was a fake. These guys are very good and its scary how good they really are if your bidding on ebay.
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~Jason

6 ft signs & rare pump plates Signal, Hancock, Mohawk, Polly, Flying A, Douglas, Richfield, PDQ, Stinker, Beeline, Neon , Dealership.


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#109424 - Wed Feb 08 2006 10:56 AM Re: Polly can need help
Globes and Signs Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Wed Oct 15 2003
Loc: Columbus, GA
It's a perfect example of why ALL reproduced items should be clearly marked!!! I'm SO sick of people saying oh they never had bad intentions, it just turned out that way. That is such **** , it always has and always will. It's just like the 30" signs that are being repoped and NOT MARKED. Eventually someone will get burned, look at the 30" Gulf signs that are on ebay about every day!

If you repop something and DO NOT mark it reproduction. You are doing it with bad intentions, that is a guarantee!

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#109425 - Wed Feb 08 2006 11:13 AM Re: Polly can need help
Signal Gas & Oil Offline
Veteran Member

Registered: Sun Jun 06 2004
Loc: Lodi, CA.
Thanks John for the input. I emailed off another question and will see what kind of reply I get this time. Here it is. Ted

"I asked earlier if it was a real can and thanks for the reply but what I want to know is this an original Polly can and not a remake by earlyman34 that sells on ebay. If I am going to bid on this I need a close-up of the tail section on the bird. Thanks Ted"

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Ted Pam & Ethyl Roach
Lodi CA.
Looking for Signal, Hancock, Mohawk, Douglas, Gilmore and Richfield
pca-west.org
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Ted Pam Ethyl & Polly Roach
Lodi CA.
209-210-8971
Looking for Signal, Hancock, Mohawk, Douglas, Gilmore and Richfield

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#109426 - Wed Feb 08 2006 12:56 PM Re: Polly can need help
59fairlane Offline
Veteran Member

Registered: Wed May 18 2005
Loc: Interlaken, NY
I see that it is at $380.00 as of 1 p.m.

Somebody wants it........
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Always looking for Ithaca Gun and Lucky Sam soda items!!!



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#109427 - Wed Feb 08 2006 01:00 PM Re: Polly can need help
TeeTee Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Mon Oct 04 2004
Loc: MI
I also emailed about this can...I asked if it was an old can with a new vinyl label and this is the response:


looks all original to me. not an added or painted label, as seen by the
bubbles of minor rust under original label. appears to have a soldered
seem. really beautiful colours!!!!!1

The part that gets me is "not an added or painted label" so then it is not new and vinyl nor old and painted??? He also sent me some pictures and he is right, there are little bubbles under the label...if you have ever done anything with vinyl decals you know what these look like and I believe that is what I am seeing in his pics. My opinion is that this can is fake.

Kevin
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I offer quart can re-lidding, can rolling, lid stamping, and dent removal.

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#109428 - Wed Feb 08 2006 02:17 PM Re: Polly can need help
Signal Gas & Oil Offline
Veteran Member

Registered: Sun Jun 06 2004
Loc: Lodi, CA.
The story goes on. Here is the dialog so far. Ted
Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 9:30 AM
Subject: Re: Question for item #7216632661 - POLLY PREMIUM OIL CAN !!!


> OK, LET ME GET THAT FOR YOU. IS THERE SOME GUY SELLING REPRO POLLY CANS ON
> EBAY? AND CAN YOU TELL ME MORE OF WHAT i SOULD BE TELLING PEOPLE OR WHAT i
> SOULD BE LOOKING FOR? i AM NOT A COLLECTOR AND DON'T PRETEND TO KNOW ALL
> ABOUT THIS SORT OF THIBG.
>
> gEORGE

Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 9:39 AM
Subject: Re: Question for item #7216632661 - POLLY PREMIUM OIL CAN !!!


> OK, here are the tail pics for you. Let me know what you are looking
> for. I am an honest seller and would like to know what I have. As I have
> said i HAVE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ITEM AND HAVE SENT ALOT OF
> PICS, BUT i REALLY ONLY KNOW THAT IT SEEMS TO BE THE REAL DEAL.
>
> tHANKS, gEORGE.
>
> P.S. I case you can't tell I am not the best typer in the world, sorry.

Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: Question for item #7216632661 - POLLY PREMIUM OIL CAN !!!


>I have never heard of him, so I don't think it is one of his. And I DO
>think it is original. And I sent you some pics, let me know if you got
>them.
>
> George
Here is his ebay profile for the guy he has never heard of????
alongrider (331


Excellent Customer, fast turn around, good communication.
Seller earlyman34 ( 99) Aug-11-05 18:58 7174071036

Look at this and you make the call.Thanks to all that helped on this. I have not heard from him again. I emailed him again and gave him my phone number to discuss the can. Ted

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Ted Pam & Ethyl Roach
Lodi CA.
Looking for Signal, Hancock, Mohawk, Douglas, Gilmore and Richfield
pca-west.org
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Ted Pam Ethyl & Polly Roach
Lodi CA.
209-210-8971
Looking for Signal, Hancock, Mohawk, Douglas, Gilmore and Richfield

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#109429 - Wed Feb 08 2006 03:02 PM Re: Polly can need help
Gary Drye Offline
Veteran Member

Registered: Fri Oct 13 2000
Loc: Clarksville, Tn. USA
Good info. I never knew that about the tail feathers. I always assumed a repo labeled can could be easily detected, in person anyway. Ebay would be different. I just got back from checking mine and the tail feathers are verticle and continuous, thank goodness. I don't know if I could stand another "in doubt" item in my collection. Thanks.

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#109430 - Wed Feb 08 2006 03:27 PM Re: Polly can need help
Signal Gas & Oil Offline
Veteran Member

Registered: Sun Jun 06 2004
Loc: Lodi, CA.
Gary this guy earlyman34 makes wraps that you have to try and catch your fingernail on to tell. WITHOUT HOLDING IT YOU DON'T HAVE A CHANCE. When this is all over I will run some pictures and add this to Known reproductions on this site. Ted

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Ted Pam & Ethyl Roach
Lodi CA.
Looking for Signal, Hancock, Mohawk, Douglas, Gilmore and Richfield
pca-west.org
_________________________
Ted Pam Ethyl & Polly Roach
Lodi CA.
209-210-8971
Looking for Signal, Hancock, Mohawk, Douglas, Gilmore and Richfield

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#109431 - Wed Feb 08 2006 05:17 PM Re: Polly can need help
thermactor Offline
Veteran Member

Registered: Wed Apr 27 2005
Loc: Decatur, IL
Unbelievable! The guy claims he has never heard of earlyman34, and he has feedback from buying something from him?? Honest seller my adze...

Wes

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#109432 - Wed Feb 08 2006 05:22 PM Re: Polly can need help
oil stuff Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Sun Jun 06 2004
Loc: BG . MO.
Earlyman34 makes the fabules fakes 1qt can's but he sells them as that its the peaple that buy then resell that got to watch for. Here's an idea i have been doing for a lil while now. I added earlyman34 to my favorite sellers so when he picks his best buys or top picks etc... I get a email about it , then i go in and save every one of his pics to my computer to be burnt on a cd . That way if i have ? about a can i look at the pic of the fake & the pic of the ? can . Hope this helps!
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WTB - Any thing from ILLINOIS FARM SUPPLY COMPANY

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#109433 - Wed Feb 08 2006 05:26 PM Re: Polly can need help
thermactor Offline
Veteran Member

Registered: Wed Apr 27 2005
Loc: Decatur, IL
I put earlyman34 in the same category as a counterfietter. The fact that he's not marking his reproductions as such is shameful. He obviously intends for his buyers to resell them to defraud people. If he didn't intend that, he'd mark them as repro in small text on the back.

His sales would probably go down if scammers stopped buying his wares.

Wes

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#109434 - Wed Feb 08 2006 07:23 PM Re: Polly can need help
oillease55 Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Sat Jul 06 2002
Loc: greenville,ohio
we all know that some repro stuff is needed such as pump parts etc. The problem stuff is the globes,signs cans,oil bottles, salt&pepper shakers,literature,blotters, the list goes on and on. I think it's time to stop bitching about it and do something. I've been collecting for a few years and have been burnt a few times myself. I challenge those of you to do what I did when I realized I was duped. I destroyed the items. Remember the book burnings. I also agree with Wes about earlyman. Maybe we need to start somewhere ? but thats just me talking;;;;;;;;;;;;Ron

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#109435 - Thu Feb 09 2006 09:49 AM Re: Polly can need help
Signal Gas & Oil Offline
Veteran Member

Registered: Sun Jun 06 2004
Loc: Lodi, CA.
Had a 1/2 hr. phone conversation with seller last night and I will not post the discussion here. If anyone wants the details I will talk to you via the phone but not until after the auction is over. The only thing I will say is that I would not bid on this can. RIP. Ted

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Ted Pam & Ethyl Roach
Lodi CA.
Looking for Signal, Hancock, Mohawk, Douglas, Gilmore and Richfield
pca-west.org
_________________________
Ted Pam Ethyl & Polly Roach
Lodi CA.
209-210-8971
Looking for Signal, Hancock, Mohawk, Douglas, Gilmore and Richfield

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#109436 - Thu Feb 09 2006 01:34 PM Re: Polly can need help
pollyman Offline
Veteran Member

Registered: Mon Sep 15 2003
Loc: California
Over $500, that must be a record for a non-original can if that is the case. Here is a better picture of the tail of my fake Polly can by Earlyman 34. Hope it helps.

_________________________
~Jason

6 ft signs & rare pump plates Signal, Hancock, Mohawk, Polly, Flying A, Douglas, Richfield, PDQ, Stinker, Beeline, Neon , Dealership.


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#109437 - Thu Feb 09 2006 05:02 PM Re: Polly can need help
st.rod Offline
Veteran Member

Registered: Fri Feb 15 2002
Loc: Edgewater, Colorful Colorado
Well, the can in question is its final hour and so many minutes. I have sent e-mails to a few bidders warning them that it more than likely is a reproduction. Don't know if I will get in a jam with E-Bay for doing so or not. Doesn't matter to me. Just hate to see someone get 'can-jacked' LB
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In memory of DB 9/12/49 - 8/28/14

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