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#111524 Thu Nov 06 2008 04:47 PM
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It appears the Paypal only rule is in effect on Ebay, as has been discussed here recently. I've always paid by money order. Is that something that can be arranged with the seller or do they have some way to prevent that. I've tried to steer away from Paypal but maybe I'll have to give in.

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If it says Pay Pal Required, then you have to be signed up with PP to bid.
Some sellers will still accept M.O., check before bidding.

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Thanks Dick.

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I think, not sure, but I think the seller has to offer Paypal as a source of payment. I'm sure you can still offer money orders etc. as I just had some auctions ended last week..and I offered Paypal, money orders, cashiers checks etc.
So the seller has to be registered with Paypal..


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The way I read it was that a seller can only offer PayPal or that other online service *?* . A buyer can contact a seller and ask if they will accept other means and the transaction can be concluded that way. Sellers are not supposed to promote this at all. In fact I did read somewhere in the new policy explanations that eBay wanted sellers to report buyers who wanted to use other methods of payment. It's all really bizarre and of course a big turnoff. It's meant to make eBay "safe" but of course intelligent people see it for what it is... more $$$ for eBay. Good opportunity for other venues.

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pay pal is not mandatory, the seller can check the box to accept credit cards, instead of pay pal....but seller has to accept at least one of the two.......you can also accept personnel or money order checks....

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I agree Darryl


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I have emailed more than 1 seller that stated they only accept PP, that they have lost another bidder that only uses M.O.

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well Wes i think we were half right & DB was half right....ouch!! My bud Pablo emailed me info that ebay has changed there policy Nov. 1st so i looked into it & sure enough you can only use a M.O. or check with an item listed in certain categories.....click link to show these categories........

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/accepted-payments-policy.html

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I suspect that after January 15th that ebay will Require all bidders to have signed up for PP or CC's to Bid on any item not listed as "M.O. or check with an item listed in certain categories".

Just what we need in a failing economy, more people using Credit instead of paying with Cash/M.O. !

I have credit cards, but only use them in an emergency or when I need/want a paper trail.

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...hard to believe eBay will put up with this stuff on their message boards for long:
http://forums.ebay.com/db2/forum.jspa?forumID=97

...eBay is the proverbial Golden Goose - except it's killing itself to get at the eggs...it's a low-down, dirty shame...

...swap meets (and Oldgas) are grrrreat...but I know my collection wouldn't be half what it is without eBay over the last 9 years...

...eBay started as a way for PEZ collectors to network...if eBay has their way it'll devolve into just another way to buy a flat-screen...phooey...


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need someone with the means etc, to start a new old style ebay

like where is bill gates when you need him!

#111536 Sat Nov 08 2008 01:02 AM
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eBid.net seems to have the old style. They are definitely more reasonable than eBay. They answer questions quickly too. I think eBid will grow into what eBay used to be... a great place to shop and to sell. ePier is a waste of time, really dead.

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Well it seems that PayPal is the preferred way to make a payment for Ebay,, it is mine for sure. It's instant and secure and only cost either the buyer or the seller 2.9%.. Lots of buyers take too long to send money orders, cash etc. PayPal is good for both buyer and seller, it guarantees payment for both parties..It saves a lot of messing around with International money orders, cashiers checks or bank drafts. Everytime I get a payment other than PayPal, I take it to my bank, there is always a hold on funds for a least 14 days and the bank tells me that a cashiers check or money order can come back at anytime after that, indefinately..I like PayPal,,electronic is the way business is done these days..
How many of you guys pay your bills at home online, ( Credit cards, utilities, etc.)? Don't forget sending payment in the snail mail isn't exactly free,gas, money order costs, stamps and don't forget your time..


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gulfiend!........thanks for posting that ebay forum link , i have been venting there ever since
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I like pay pal as a buyer, but i still refuse to take it as a seller...I don't like giving up that 2.9% or whatever it is.....If you are a seller don't think pay pal is safe unless its connected right to the buyers bank account which i will never never do.....

there are ZERO funds in my pay pal account so when i pay with pay pal it bills my credit card direct......if there is a problem with the transaction it seems pay pal is way to seller friendly & they take there side.........having pay pal connected to my credit card always leaves me the option as a buyer to dispute the transaction with my credit card company who seems to be more buyer friendly......

In one transaction a couple of years ago i bought something that was not right & paid with pay pal...i recieved the item & it was bogus & the description was a total lie, i then tried to dispute the transaction with pay pal who did nothing in my behalf & sided with the seller, I then disputed the transaction with my credit card & after proving this thing was bogus, they sided with me & removed the pay pal charge from my credit card.....
....I do love pay pal as a buyer though, there is no downside if you set it up correctly........as a seller there can be some downsides......



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Check this out.You might think twice about selling with Paypal after reading some of these stories!
http://paypalsucks.com/forums/showforum.php?fid=3

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I think its best to go by your own experience with pay pal- two sides to most every story- thanks Don

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#111541 Sun Nov 09 2008 01:08 PM
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great link Mr. wadahams, it appears to be a very one sided story........have not seen to many that agree with the new changes.....anybody have othr forum links to show the other side of the story ??

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I found that site when researching how to sign up to possibly begin selling on Ebay again.
I think you would have a hard time finding anything like the complaint site for the "other" side as I believe there are few sellers (or even a lot of buyers) who actually think its a good thing to be forced into it.(I know!-a credit card merchant account is accepted too! Nice!).
Even on the Ebay discussion forums there are few people that stick up for Paypal.I would have no problem with it if it was not so obviously flawed and the unfairness aimed at the sellers.
Do you really think Ebay would be forcing this so agressively if it wasn't the "service" they think is going to turn their poor stock performance around for their stock holders?

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#111543 Sun Nov 09 2008 03:18 PM
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just my 2 cents.i am not a big seller,but i am a buyer mostly.i have never had a problem with paypal and just recently had an ebay buy where seller would not contact me,and had not shipped item.contacted paypal and was reimbursed within a few days.i am not saying it is the greatest thing,just that it has not caused me any problems i do not like the fact that they are forcing you to use it though!


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What happens when I sell a larger item not in one of the "special" categories and the buyer picks it up in person and pays cash? Ebay/paypal will know that they did not get their extra 2.9% for that transaction...will they try to get it from me or suspend my account for a vilotaion of their greedy rules?


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they will probably send Bruzer out to your house to collect their fees.....

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Mike, quit hanging around........ LOL



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Bruzer, i was just kidding.....is that the last person who did'nt pay their ebay fees??

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I am a buyer only, and I love paypal. Mostly because I am a lazy buyer. I usually won't bid on something unless they take paypal. I would bet that 2/3 of my purchases would not have been made if I had to get a money order or mail a check. I don't even have checks anymore. I don't have stamps or envelopes. I think paypal helps buyers buy, and that helps sellers sell. I think it is well worth the 3% hit.

Granted, I understand how buyers can be angry at paypal when they put holds on money, remove money from your account because buyer made a complaint, etc, and I think those are legitimate complaints that need to be addressed, but the 3% fee is worth it to the sellers (in my opinion).


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YOU GOT MY VOTE


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Not if you work on commission! PayPal is not a good thing at all. And where does eBay come off telling people that they can no longer use paper?!!!

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All city, state, U.S. Gov.offices, Home Depot, Wal Mart, Costco, Big Lots, etc etc etc STILL accept M.O., Personal Checks, Cash.
BUT NOT EBAY !

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FijiLane.i agree 100% with you...........i also buy a lot on ebay & love to pay with pay pal as a buyer however who does ebay think they are to tell me what type of payments i can accept as a seller,,,,,,,,its ridculous.........i don't see anything wrong with using pay pal but give me the choice to also accept paper............this decision will bite them in the *** & i believe it will be changed at some point soon......


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It's really no big deal. When they finally run themselves in the ground, they'll jump on board this gravy-train bailout and we the tax payers will hand over BILLIONS to bail them out.
It's the new American Way.
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Just a question about e-bay.I broke down and filled out the questions.for paypal.on the credit card info. I then went to a site to buy a item and paypal said I have to put ay bank account info down also. Is this correct. Thanks

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Hi,

That is probably correct. It has been several years since I signed up with paypal so I am not sure what they now require with a new account. I have both a checking account and credit card on file with them. When you pay with paypal just be carefull on which payment method is used. It will default to your checking account but if you want to use your credit card you have to specify it to charge to your credit card. I'm sure paypal does not want to pay the credit card fees if they can help it so they default it to your checking account. I think you will really like Paypal for making payments as it is very easy to use, fast,and is no hassel.

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