Re: Repop Socony Aircraft Sign
#111567
Sat Jan 03 2004 07:39 AM
Sat Jan 03 2004 07:39 AM
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THE AMERICAN GARAGE
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Here's my thoughts on this sign.... Notice the edges are rounded off? How much corcern was there 70 years ago for a square pointy maybe dangerous sign that supposedly came already installed on a oil cabinet door? I smell a rat. I know that in the early-mid 80's I bought repop signs from dealers that said the with todays lawsuits manufacturers couldn't put such a harsh point on some signs esp. arrow signs. Take that into consideration. The seller says he's had it for 25 years. I know of repops that are 30 years old! I've had a repop of this sign for about 10 years. The books say that this sign was made in two sizes: 20x30" and 12x20". make up your own minds!  DOC [This message has been edited by THE AMERICAN GARAGE (edited 01-03-2004).]
DOC @ THE AMERICAN GARAGE
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Re: Repop Socony Aircraft Sign
#111575
Sat Jan 03 2004 11:58 AM
Sat Jan 03 2004 11:58 AM
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Posts: 726 Big Valley, CA
Dwaine Buck
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Your right Butch, different sign companys that got the contracts to do sign for different oil companys used different ways of doing things. so you might look at signs made in Canada from 1941 thru 1945 and they are different from what was made here before and after the war. Signal in 1931 when they started their gasoline division, the first door signs with the two red lights did not have grommets. but the later ones with the two red lights did. The point being, theres guys that go by the grommet only. there are the ones that go by the pointed corners, or rounded ones, the backs . the thickness. we have put two Flying a sign togather from the same era and ones a creamy ones white ,white. ones corners are not as pointy as the other, two different sign companys. the bigger the company the more confuseing there signs are, thats why when a sign comes on that I question I email you or Keith. can't get you most of the time your always in someones barn. or pulled up to their table, ha ha just kidding. we need a good book on signs , not just pictures but information. Seth is doing it now but there are a lot of repos that you can't tell, but hes marking them good. and we need that. and the repo globes , I've said it before and I'll say it agin . the west coast companys never made a 13 1/2 " globe. tidewater was the only one on the west coast in the last years that might have. and we (all of us) have not seen it all yet. Up pops a little ol Micraphone sign from Associated and all the big guys goes nuts. how about the Beacon signs that showed up at Fred's . everybody but one standing around scratching him self looking and one guys steps up , ha ha oh Butch that same guy has 4 more. but hes not as dumb this time. have a nice day guys.
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Re: Repop Socony Aircraft Sign
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Sat Jan 03 2004 12:48 PM
Sat Jan 03 2004 12:48 PM
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Lastgas15
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Dwaine, I've figured out one thing about globes. NEVER say never! You might be right that west coast companies didn't use 13 1/2" globes, but new discoveries pop up all the time. Rumor is there might be a new sign book in the works. I'd say a GOOD sign book is long overdue!
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Re: Repop Socony Aircraft Sign
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Sat Jan 03 2004 04:14 PM
Sat Jan 03 2004 04:14 PM
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minuteman
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In my 1988 Weber's catalogue shows the IDENTICAL porcelain sign 10 x 14 inch selling for 16.95. I'm with Butch...there is NO WAY this is an old original sign...
Wanted early tin litho signage. petro, farm, auto, etc.
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