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#114579 - Thu Jan 17 2008 09:33 PM Big Cheese
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Registered: Sat Dec 16 2006
Loc: VT
I seem to remember that Big Cheese bought a large collection some time ago and I have been looking for it to show up here or on ebay and all I have seen are a few minor pieces. Anyone know if he sold it all at a private auction, or does he have his own website or something? Havent seen him post here lately either, is he still a member?
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#114580 - Thu Jan 17 2008 10:03 PM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Wed Jun 02 2004
Loc: PECONIC BAY, L.I., NY, USA
HE HAS HIS OWN FORUM TO TAKE CARE OF AND HE IS ALWAYS BUYING COLLECTIONS. THE MAN IS SUPER BUSY. HE SELLS ON EBAY AND ON HIS WEBSITE:
http://cheesepitstop.com/

~DOC
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#114581 - Thu Jan 17 2008 10:54 PM Re: Big Cheese
BLange Offline
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Registered: Wed Oct 12 2005
Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA
I was going to ask which big collection? But Doc beat me to it. Always seems to have a ton of cool petro for sale.


Brian
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#114582 - Fri Jan 18 2008 05:28 AM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Mon Jan 22 2007
Loc: montrose mi
the gas pump king pin..

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#114583 - Fri Jan 18 2008 06:24 AM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Fri Oct 13 2000
Loc: Locust, NC
Miles Little bought some of it.

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#114584 - Fri Jan 18 2008 08:09 PM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Sat Dec 16 2006
Loc: VT
Thanks, Ill check it out
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#114585 - Fri Jan 18 2008 09:42 PM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Fri Nov 16 2001
Loc: Near Tracy Rock
Looks like Cheese just bought a couple more really really nice collections...... they're on his web-site....... just look under the Photo Gallery section.
bob

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#114586 - Wed Jan 23 2008 02:02 PM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Sat Dec 16 2006
Loc: VT
As soon as I posted this, I see he now has lots of globes up on ebay.
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#114587 - Thu Jan 24 2008 07:52 PM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Mon Feb 02 2004
Loc: Tulsa, Oklahoma
Seeing his globes on ebay, Does it bother anyone else that he never states in his listings "reproduction" when the globe is in fact reproduction or new?

[This message has been edited by okoil1 (edited 01-24-2008).]
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#114588 - Fri Jan 25 2008 07:55 AM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Sat Dec 16 2006
Loc: VT
I wish he would for those of us who arent experts. I see some have asked him that very question. Would probably save him a lot of time responding, (and potential dissatisfied buyers) if he stated if it was an original or reproduction.
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#114589 - Fri Jan 25 2008 08:03 AM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Sun Oct 21 2007
Loc: Mass
If it is not clearly stated as a repro in the ad, and it is in fact a repro, ANYBODY in this hobby should know enough to be outright honest about the item to prevent any inkling of wrongdoing, and to prevent any newcomber from making an uneducated mistake. Isn't that what we are about on this site.

[This message has been edited by KZ1000 (edited 01-25-2008).]
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#114590 - Fri Jan 25 2008 08:37 AM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Tue Feb 22 2005
Loc: Longview, WA
Am I missing something? I am on Cheese's ebay site right now and I see "original" on the description of globes and signs. There are a couple I wonder about because of price, but for the most part easy to tell reproduction from original. I see where Cheese has a 99.9% feedback rating with only 3 negs. So doesn't look like he is trying to cheat anyone.
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#114591 - Fri Jan 25 2008 09:43 AM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Wed Nov 21 2007
Loc: Little Rock, AR USA
The above post is correct. Most people want to find something wrong, even if nothing is wrong.

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#114592 - Fri Jan 25 2008 12:24 PM Re: Big Cheese
Bob Richards Online   happy
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Registered: Tue Feb 22 2005
Loc: Longview, WA
Lately there have been comments made about the honesty of Cheese, before that Rich and last year about others. I still haven't seen where anyone has given solid examples where these people have done anything to deserve this treatment on this forum. If someone can point out by first hand experience any transaction where they were cheated,please come forward. If not, then kill the BS. No one should have their reputation dragged through the mud without some proof of wrong doing. These people make at least part of their living by selling items and if they lose even one customer because of comments that aren't true, that is way too many. I see where JJ pulled his comments, I am sorry to see that. I believe he is and was right, this is their reputations(the sellers) that are on the line. So don't screw them up without some proof.
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#114593 - Fri Jan 25 2008 12:51 PM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Sun Oct 21 2007
Loc: Mass
After recieving a couple nasty emails I will try to clarify my thoughts.

Read my reply again, It is ALL sellers/collectors in general that need to step up to the plate and show that we are better than the scammers out there that do it intentionally, There is no valid reason to leave out that an item is a repro if you know that it is. and thats that.
(I do not know cheese and this is not aimed at him,it is the topic of repros I am talking about)
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#114594 - Fri Jan 25 2008 04:04 PM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Wed Oct 12 2005
Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA
The auction's you are talking about were for fantasy lenses, there not even reproductions. In order to be reproductions they would of had to be made originally first. The auctions have ended. If an Ebay buyer couldn't tell those were fantasy, then they should get out of the hobby. LOL


BL
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#114595 - Fri Jan 25 2008 05:27 PM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Tue Apr 01 2003
Loc: yorkton sask canada
I just want to say cheese has been good to me in all of are dealings, Above and beyond whatever I asked for.

ward zaharia

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#114596 - Fri Jan 25 2008 07:07 PM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Sat Dec 16 2006
Loc: VT
Brian,
Cheese has over 10 globes on ebay that are NOT fantasy globes. I was not referring to fantasy globes. It looks like he has now revised the descriptions to make it clear that they are originals, not reproductions.
To be clear, I in no way called into question Cheese's integrity. I simply agreed with another post that it would be helpful ( especially to new guys) if he ( and every other seller on ebay)would put "original" or "repro" in the decription. Similarly, it would be helpful if he, and everyone for that matter, would clearly state if it is just one lens up for auction. Sometimes it is difficult to tell.
I cant tell if you were joking when you said 'if they cant tell a fantasy piece they should get out of the hobby.' I assume by the LOL it was a joke, but I have seen the experts here fooled many times, especially with signs. Obviously, people new to the hobby can be fooled easier. You could say its their own ignorance, and its "buyer beware" on ebay, but I would hope members of this site would encourage new collectors, and therefore do everything they can to prevent someone from being misled. One bad experience is enough to stop a newcomer from joining this hobby that we all love. It also turns away a potential buyer for those who make money at this. Simple economics: More people in the hobby, the prices of collections go up.
John
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#114597 - Fri Jan 25 2008 08:06 PM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Sat Jul 06 2002
Loc: greenville,ohio
Excellent, Vermonter;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;Ron

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#114598 - Fri Jan 25 2008 10:08 PM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Sat Aug 28 2004
Loc: Longmont, CO
Vermonter and KZ1000. Your posts are spot on and you did nothing wrong. Nothing wrong with your question at all in my mind. Cheese is an honest seller and does have others help with his listings. He has a lot of things on ebay and I don't think for a minute that he would have not mentioned a reproduction if he knew and was the one who listed the item. And he would give a refund if you didn't like the item. And about the nasty emails...one of my first posts on this site was about a few guys on ebay who put "globe" and "sign",etc. in every ebay listing. One of those guys was Cheese and once it became known I recieved all kinds of hate mail. Some if it from some of the same people who claim to be so offended when anyone asks a question about a sign or a globe or whatever it may be that their friend or they have for sale. I have to laugh when I see guys so offended by the possibility that a general "crybaby" comment might have been about them and that a member gets suspended because of it. Who is it that needs to "grow up" around here? I work in a machine shop and guys give each other a tough time ALL DAY LONG. I don't think a lot of you would last a day! Call me anything you want. I don't care and I won't even hold it against you. I can understand that other people feel differently about things than I do without getting all crybaby about it. Cheese knows he is an honest seller and a stand up guy and he can defend himself if he thinks he needs to. Some of you guys think EVERYTHING is a personal attack. Who's sticking up for the poor guy in Argentina selling all the cool signs? That guy gets bashed here all the time. If we can't ask questions without fear of being tossed out of here because someone knows the guy we are asking the question about then who's gonna post?
And since JJ didn't just edit his post but it flat out disappeared I guess we can now say for sure who one of the mystery "watchdogs" are.

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#114599 - Fri Jan 25 2008 10:20 PM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Thu Nov 08 2007
Maybe NOT.
ANY Mod. can DELETE a post.

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#114600 - Fri Jan 25 2008 10:20 PM Re: Big Cheese
Bob Richards Online   happy
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Registered: Tue Feb 22 2005
Loc: Longview, WA
Too often the written word and the thoughts behind it do not jibe. One types one thought and too often the reader understands it completely differently than meant. If one is a collector sooner or later they will be tricked. Whether it is a sign,globe,painting or a car that someone claims all numbers match. Reproductions and fantasy items are becoming more and more common as "original" items become scarcer. There have been tv shows about auto rebuilders who build a fantasy car and then sell it at auction for big bucks. For some reason they are held in high regard. We have seen this become more and more common in our hobby. It was common for items to be destroyed as logos and/or companies changed. Stations changed ownership and the old was thrown out like yesterday's trash. But we here have a responsibility to make sure that we don't cast doubt on a seller, without solid proof of deceit. Too often this has not been the case and disagreements have at times gotten out of hand. I have been guilty of this and I left for a while. Some may not be glad that I came back. But to write something here carries a lot of weight, a lot of people read it. Whether it is correct or not. Just something to think about.
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#114601 - Fri Jan 25 2008 10:31 PM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Wed Nov 01 2000
Loc: Evansville, In
I asked to have mine removed to keep out of an arguement. I am not replying to this topic!
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#114602 - Fri Jan 25 2008 10:38 PM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Sat Aug 28 2004
Loc: Longmont, CO
Why not JJ? There was nothing wrong with your post. Why do you guys think every little thing is an argument? Why is it we can't discuss these things? They are probably laughing their asses off about this thread at Cheeses site.

And who is this Bowser guy. New guy. No Location. Seems to know the moderator thing. Are you one of the "Watchdogs"? What was your name before "Bowser"? Hmmmm?

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#114603 - Fri Jan 25 2008 10:58 PM Re: Big Cheese
BLange Offline
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Registered: Wed Oct 12 2005
Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA
Know were not, there laughing about some **** that collects Skelly.

JJ, I'd like to of read your post, I bet it wasn't that bad or bad at all.

BL

Edit to remove unacceptable word

[This message has been edited by Oldgas (edited 01-26-2008).]
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#114604 - Fri Jan 25 2008 11:11 PM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Sat Aug 28 2004
Loc: Longmont, CO
Bowser@oldgas.com
Guess you are one of the watchdogs! I think all this anonymous "watchdog" stuff is chicken ****. We all know that guys are prejudiced to the people they know. I don't think its right that we don't know where these guys stand and who they are. How do we know that if we question something your buddy has for sale that our comments won't be pulled just because of that? A lot of the popular guys on this site have bad feelings about others. How can we trust that the "watchdogs" don't come with baggage about members. The last thing I need is Bennett and Thunder moderating my posts! LOL!

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#114605 - Fri Jan 25 2008 11:15 PM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Wed Oct 12 2005
Loc: Cedar Rapids, IA
RARIN TO GO:

"Bowser@oldgas.com
Guess you are one of the watchdogs! I think all this anonymous "watchdog" stuff is chicken ****."

+1


BL
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#114606 - Fri Jan 25 2008 11:49 PM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Sat Aug 28 2004
Loc: Longmont, CO
OK...I was just about asleep and I thought of this.

Bowser=Bennett
Look at the post.

"Maybe NOT.
ANY Mod. can DELETE a post."

JUST like Dick writes with LOTS of ALL CAPS words in the middle of his sentences. SURE seems like QUITE a COINCEDENCE to me.

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#114607 - Sat Jan 26 2008 12:01 AM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Mon Jan 17 2005
Loc: Saline, Mi USA
RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUFF

I like the watchdog idea, really keeps me on my toes!

Good doggie, doggie......

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#114608 - Sat Jan 26 2008 07:23 AM Re: Big Cheese
billbailey Offline
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Registered: Sat Mar 17 2007
Loc: Healy, Alaska
I'm mostly new to this as a hobby and I'm really glad there is a site such as this to share our information. I was raised in a service station and we knew who did good, fair, and proper repairs. The same way some of you know who is good to deal with, or who you won't deal with. People being people it's good to have folks who are willing to put themselves out there and sometimes take the heat to be moderators. I, for one want to thank them. Bill
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#114609 - Sat Jan 26 2008 08:09 AM Re: Big Cheese
Jarvis Offline
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Registered: Wed Nov 01 2000
Loc: Evansville, In
Why do you guys have to get so mouthy? I seen this topic going down hill fast and decided i didn't want to be in it. i asked to be removed from it because last time i gave some input (outboard thread) it was like a train wreck for me.
I am getting more **** for not wanting to be
in this thread than if they would have just left my post there.

I just said cheese's kids list his items a lot of times and maybe he waits a few days before he looks at them to make sure they are correct.

Thanks for the crappy e-mails also for what ever reason as that is plain childish! Some of this stuff that goes on is like being in high school again.
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#114610 - Sat Jan 26 2008 08:41 AM Re: Big Cheese
Oldgas Online   cool
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Registered: Tue Jul 25 2000
Loc: South of St. Louis, MO USA
Kidding between coworkers and friends in person is one thing. Words posted online for thousands to read are another thing. Name calling is not acceptable even if the target person does not object.

Nobody has to be concerned about a moderator or watchdog unless they do something against the Membership Agreement. If you think I or one of the moderator/watchdogs are biased in their actions, please send me an email about it. I know we can't please everyone, but we strive to be fair and in the best interest of the community.

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#114611 - Sat Jan 26 2008 08:47 AM Re: Big Cheese
roger cherry Offline
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Registered: Thu Jul 04 2002
Loc: Collierville, Tn
Even with all the trouble I have been in on here, the moderators treated me fairly after my emotions calmed down. Everyone take a breath, ole Cheese is a good guy and honest. The moderators are NOT the "death squad", just here to keep the piece. As for the person in Argentia, he has made no attempt to be on this site, or change his/her auctions to state the TRUTH that he/she is selling repos. Personally, I like everyone on this site, even if they don't like me because it keeps me interested in the hobby and alert to whats going on!!!

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#114612 - Sat Jan 26 2008 09:57 AM Re: Big Cheese
Ryan Underthun Offline
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Registered: Thu Nov 07 2002
Loc: Duluth, MN U.S.A
Here is the famous "watchdog" everybody is talking about.



See that basketball next to him, he can palm that in his mouth and carry it around. Its pretty funny to watch a bulldog carry around a basketball.

Ryan

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#114613 - Sat Jan 26 2008 11:23 AM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Sat Jan 25 2003
Loc: Kelowna British Columbia Canad...
I always thought it was a German Shepherd named WAYNE that was THE WATCHDOG of HONEST MEASURE...!!

maybe I got it wrong..

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#114614 - Sat Jan 26 2008 12:17 PM Re: Big Cheese
oldnfuelish Offline
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Registered: Wed Nov 02 2005
Loc: Antioch,IL
hey wasnt bowser that guy from sha na na??
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#114615 - Sun Jan 27 2008 08:46 AM Re: Big Cheese
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Loc: On the plains of Colorado
How did I get pulled into this again????
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#114616 - Sun Jan 27 2008 11:54 AM Re: Big Cheese
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Registered: Sat Aug 28 2004
Loc: Longmont, CO
Just making sure your paying attention!

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#114617 - Sun Jan 27 2008 12:13 PM Re: Big Cheese
RARIN TO GO Offline
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Registered: Sat Aug 28 2004
Loc: Longmont, CO
And wether Bowser is a Bulldog, German Shepherd, or a man who's fame far exceeds his talent (Oh Oh...more mail coming my way) I do not want anyone to think I have a problem with the moderators. I just felt that it was weird that we probably know who these moderators are but they are acting anonymously. "Chicken ****" was a little harsh and I apologize.
And you guys do know I was joking about the "poor guy in Argentina" ...right???
Have a great day everyone!


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#114618 - Sun Jan 27 2008 03:42 PM Re: Big Cheese
oldnfuelish Offline
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Registered: Wed Nov 02 2005
Loc: Antioch,IL
it really stinks when i try to make a joke and someone tries to turn it into a downright insult. as for the original topic i have dealt with cheese a few times.he has always been superfast to answer any questions i have,has gone above and beyond the call to keep a customer satisfied and is A!+ in my book!im done with this topic mick
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#114619 - Sun Jan 27 2008 04:39 PM Re: Big Cheese
huskybob Offline
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Registered: Fri Nov 16 2001
Loc: Near Tracy Rock
oldenfuelish I think I found your attempt at humor, but I don't see anything about a downright insult. Did the moderators take away another post.
As far as I can tell from what is posted in this topic and the dealings I have had with him........ there is certainly nothing wrong with Cheese.
bob

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