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#115323 - Fri Mar 18 2005 09:06 PM i think this globe is a fake... need your help
Jarvis Offline
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Registered: Wed Nov 01 2000
Loc: Evansville, In
ebay globe I think this is a fake. Why would some one sell a $3000-$4000 globe for $599 plus looking at Scott's book the lettering is differant since it doesn't have the red circle around it. What do you guys think? The washing dosn't mean nothing.
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#115324 - Fri Mar 18 2005 09:13 PM Re: i think this globe is a fake... need your help
scootdog Offline
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Registered: Wed Jun 05 2002
Loc: Parker, CO USA
I can't remeber who Apcopure is but I think he post's on this site as well. I would say it's real and the value is lower because of the bb hole and cracks.

Bob- what are your thoughts.

Scott
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#115325 - Fri Mar 18 2005 09:31 PM Re: i think this globe is a fake... need your help
Sinclair Joe Offline
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Registered: Mon Nov 04 2002
Loc: Northwest, PA USA
Jarvis....
I've seen ogininal globes with slight differences in lettering before. Now look at the cracks on the side photo....
That's why, I'd guess the price is where it's at. I own a complete cracked early Eldred globe on 15 inch metal I paid $185 for a few years back. If it were perfect, it would be in the thousands.....
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#115326 - Fri Mar 18 2005 09:32 PM Re: i think this globe is a fake... need your help
Lastgas15 Offline
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Registered: Mon Mar 04 2002
Loc: illinois
I believe the seller is John Rogge. I've had good dealings with him in the past and have no reason to suspect this globe is a fake. JJ, lets turn the tables. Why would someone fake a one piece etched globe for only $600?
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#115327 - Fri Mar 18 2005 09:41 PM Re: i think this globe is a fake... need your help
Jarvis Offline
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Registered: Wed Nov 01 2000
Loc: Evansville, In
Could be some one faked it and then broke it? I don't know... this is the exact reason why i won't buy a 1 piece globe ever unless i drag it out of a farmers barn myself.
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#115328 - Fri Mar 18 2005 10:30 PM Re: i think this globe is a fake... need your help
dodogas Offline
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Registered: Sat Jan 25 2003
Loc: Kelowna British Columbia Canad...
John, Have you passed through this town where it is??

Or is it near Rochester and 2Tone nailed it shaking the BB gun???

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#115329 - Sat Mar 19 2005 07:40 AM Re: i think this globe is a fake... need your help
Jarvis Offline
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Registered: Wed Nov 01 2000
Loc: Evansville, In
Dodo... good one... i had to think there for a second but i got it. LOL

I e-mail him... yes Bob that is his name and it does have a seven inch base and him and another guy bought a collection out from a widow who's husband collected many years ago. After talking to him i would believe it to be original.
You know even big collectors can have repop in there collection and not know it sometimes. Maybe they found it at and antique store or a swap meet. You never know.
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#115330 - Sat Mar 19 2005 08:20 AM Re: i think this globe is a fake... need your help
SuperAmerica Man Offline
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Registered: Wed Oct 30 2002
Loc: Central , MN USA
It appears original to me. My question is: What do you guys think its worth? Is he on target with his asking price for the condition? Kim

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#115331 - Sat Mar 19 2005 08:43 AM Re: i think this globe is a fake... need your help
Gary Drye Offline
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Registered: Fri Oct 13 2000
Loc: Clarksville, Tn. USA
The price is a fraction of what an original perfect one would cost. This poses a good question. Should you buy damaged globes? Especially rare ones. I think I would probably buy this globe if I wasn't broke. LOL Damaged globes, to some extent, should not be bought as an investment however, but bought because you just like them. I think this globe still displays well and sitting upon a shelf, the damage would be hardly noticiable, assuming UPS or whoever doesn't finish it off in transit.

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#115332 - Sat Mar 19 2005 12:29 PM Re: i think this globe is a fake... need your help
nels Offline
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Registered: Mon Jul 01 2002
Loc: Forest Lake MN USA
John Rogge is a good guy.

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#115333 - Sun Mar 20 2005 07:06 PM Re: i think this globe is a fake... need your help
roger cherry Offline
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Registered: Thu Jul 04 2002
Loc: Collierville, Tn
John is a straight-up guy, have only had good dealings with him. The globe is real-----------------really broke--- but real!!!!!

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#115334 - Mon Mar 28 2005 12:39 AM Re: i think this globe is a fake... need your help
sslick68 Offline
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Registered: Mon Jan 24 2005
Loc: Rolla Mo
Hey JJ,I say the globe is real!Why would anyone put their reputation on 600 dollars.I very seriously dont think that he needs 600 that bad.Scotts books are good but already outdated,especially on the higher end globes.Its hard to keep up with the market with books on the gas stuff.You know this!!!!!!!!!!SSlick

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