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i think this globe is a fake... need your help #115323
Fri Mar 18 2005 08:06 PM
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ebay globe I think this is a fake. Why would some one sell a $3000-$4000 globe for $599 plus looking at Scott's book the lettering is differant since it doesn't have the red circle around it. What do you guys think? The washing dosn't mean nothing.


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Re: i think this globe is a fake... need your help #115324
Fri Mar 18 2005 08:13 PM
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I can't remeber who Apcopure is but I think he post's on this site as well. I would say it's real and the value is lower because of the bb hole and cracks.

Bob- what are your thoughts.

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Re: i think this globe is a fake... need your help #115325
Fri Mar 18 2005 08:31 PM
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Jarvis....
I've seen ogininal globes with slight differences in lettering before. Now look at the cracks on the side photo....
That's why, I'd guess the price is where it's at. I own a complete cracked early Eldred globe on 15 inch metal I paid $185 for a few years back. If it were perfect, it would be in the thousands.....


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Re: i think this globe is a fake... need your help #115326
Fri Mar 18 2005 08:32 PM
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I believe the seller is John Rogge. I've had good dealings with him in the past and have no reason to suspect this globe is a fake. JJ, lets turn the tables. Why would someone fake a one piece etched globe for only $600?


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Re: i think this globe is a fake... need your help #115327
Fri Mar 18 2005 08:41 PM
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Could be some one faked it and then broke it? I don't know... this is the exact reason why i won't buy a 1 piece globe ever unless i drag it out of a farmers barn myself.


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Re: i think this globe is a fake... need your help #115328
Fri Mar 18 2005 09:30 PM
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John, Have you passed through this town where it is??

Or is it near Rochester and 2Tone nailed it shaking the BB gun???

Re: i think this globe is a fake... need your help #115329
Sat Mar 19 2005 06:40 AM
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Dodo... good one... i had to think there for a second but i got it. LOL

I e-mail him... yes Bob that is his name and it does have a seven inch base and him and another guy bought a collection out from a widow who's husband collected many years ago. After talking to him i would believe it to be original.
You know even big collectors can have repop in there collection and not know it sometimes. Maybe they found it at and antique store or a swap meet. You never know.


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Re: i think this globe is a fake... need your help #115330
Sat Mar 19 2005 07:20 AM
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It appears original to me. My question is: What do you guys think its worth? Is he on target with his asking price for the condition? Kim

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Re: i think this globe is a fake... need your help #115331
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The price is a fraction of what an original perfect one would cost. This poses a good question. Should you buy damaged globes? Especially rare ones. I think I would probably buy this globe if I wasn't broke. LOL Damaged globes, to some extent, should not be bought as an investment however, but bought because you just like them. I think this globe still displays well and sitting upon a shelf, the damage would be hardly noticiable, assuming UPS or whoever doesn't finish it off in transit.

Re: i think this globe is a fake... need your help #115332
Sat Mar 19 2005 11:29 AM
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John Rogge is a good guy.

Re: i think this globe is a fake... need your help #115333
Sun Mar 20 2005 06:06 PM
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John is a straight-up guy, have only had good dealings with him. The globe is real-----------------really broke--- but real!!!!!

Re: i think this globe is a fake... need your help #115334
Sun Mar 27 2005 11:39 PM
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Hey JJ,I say the globe is real!Why would anyone put their reputation on 600 dollars.I very seriously dont think that he needs 600 that bad.Scotts books are good but already outdated,especially on the higher end globes.Its hard to keep up with the market with books on the gas stuff.You know this!!!!!!!!!!SSlick


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