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I started restoration of Tokheim pump, HELP! #127075
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Hi Everyone,
I finally got started on my restoration of my Tokheim pump. Its rougher than I thought it was. I stripped the guts out and think Im ready to take it to the body shop. A couple questions:
1.Is it stripped down enough? If the pump was rare or in better shape, I guess Id take it completely apart, but this seems good to me.
2.The frame looks pretty good, but i have some dents in sides and doors. I plan on asking the body guy to try to straighten and bang them out. Is it ok to use bondo for the dents that dont come out? Im assuming so since once again, this isnt a museum piece.
3. The Computer. Its all frozen up. Should I clean it and spray it with WD-40 to try to free it up?
I have more questions, but Ill save them for when I try to put her back together. Thanks for the help, hopefully the pictures will post ok.
John


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Re: I started restoration of Tokheim pump, HELP! #127076
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Re: I started restoration of Tokheim pump, HELP! #127077
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1. I take all of the unecessary stuff I do not need out, all of it just for weight and handling purposes, the pumps and motors are usually locked up and do not work anyway.
2. If the dents do not come out feel free to use bondo or whatever body filler you prefer to use.
3. I use Kroil oil on the computers. Spary it thoroughly and keep working it with a pair of channel locks, it will eventually free up.

The main thing is that this is your pump, restore it to the max or min, whichever way you like it because it is your pump. Post some pics when you are complete.

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Re: I started restoration of Tokheim pump, HELP! #127078
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I love this website, but cant they implement a better way to post photos? This is the most time-consuming and complicated process I have ever had to go through. The image shack site takes forever. Ill try to post photos of the frame tomorrow.


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Re: I started restoration of Tokheim pump, HELP! #127079
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Re: I started restoration of Tokheim pump, HELP! #127080
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You need to strip all the trim off all the doors and panels before it goes to the body shop. They are not going to want to work around them and they need to be cleaned and polished up to be put back on after the body work and paint is done. JMO. Also looks like you have mis-matched doors. One has ad glass the other does not. Not that it is a big deal. Can only see one side at a time and most people would not notice. The Tokheim 300's make nice pumps restored as I did one to Fire Chief. Heavy as heck though if not gutted.

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Re: I started restoration of Tokheim pump, HELP! #127081
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Thanks for the advice. I will strip all the trim from the doors. Others have said that my pump is a mishmash because the doors do not match the model number on the side (model 39-A, date of 10/54), so I dont rally know what it really is. Its in pretty rough shape, but I like it anyway and think it will look good in front of my garage.
Dick, I have DSL and for some reason have trouble with that site.


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Re: I started restoration of Tokheim pump, HELP! #127082
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What is dial up? LOL

Get rid of all the heavy junk unless you intend to pump gas. Before it is painted I always refit the cabinent if there are any major dents/damage. Attention to detail is most important, but most of all have fun with it. Rich B


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Re: I started restoration of Tokheim pump, HELP! #127083
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Rich,
I have all the heavy stuff stripped out. I tried again to post a pic of the frame but that image shack doesnt like me.
By refitting the cabinet I assume you mean banging the dents out, straightening it? I am having a body man sandblast and paint it for me, but he has never done a pump before. Should I advise him to put the sides and doors back on the frame, straighten them out, then disassemble before sandblasting and painting? ( I assume this would be the way to do it) Maybe I should just put it back together and then give it to him to straighten out.
He says about $200 to do the work. Seems reasonable to me. You guys?


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Re: I started restoration of Tokheim pump, HELP! #127084
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200.00 to strighten and paint your pump parts? WOW that is dirt cheap. You can not even buy the materials for that price let alone his time. Good luck and be sure to post pictures of your completed pump.


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Re: I started restoration of Tokheim pump, HELP! #127085
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Ok guys, I have it stripped down pretty good and will be taking the pump to the body man today or Monday. I have read past posts and think I have a pretty good handle on things up to this point, but have a few questions.
Im going to keep the Computer here at home and try to clean that up myself. It is currently frozen up. I read a post about soaking it, then spraying it with WD-40. Is it really a good idea to soak this in a bucket of water? If so, throw in some type of detergent? Laundry? Dish?
Once I have it cleaned up and let the WD-40 work overnight, how do I try freeing it up? Ive looked at the gears (wow there are a lot of them!)and am unsure of what part I should try moving to free it up.
Thanks again for the help and to everyone who has posted throughout the years. What a valuable resource.
John


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Re: I started restoration of Tokheim pump, HELP! #127086
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John,
Depending on how dirty it is, I have had a lot of luck simply taking it to a car wash and spraying it with a high pressure soap and then blasting the soap off. The numbers on mine cleaned up really nice and white. I then took the computer home and set on an old garbage lid (upside down to capture all the wd-40) and soaked my computer thoroughly in wd-40. I let it sit for a day and then tried to turn the computer over. I rocked the crank back and forth gently until it freed up ....then soaked it again with wd-40 and let it sit for a couple more days.....and tried again to rotate it over. Mine turns over very smoothly. DO NOT be tempted to take it apart! I did that once and was very lucky to get mine back together so it worked.......over four hours later. Good luck on the restoration. I'm sure others will have better ideas on cleaning it, but what I did worked great.

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Re: I started restoration of Tokheim pump, HELP! #127087
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If you have the old glass send one to the body shop..same with the ad glass..The glass on your Tokheim 300 is curved and you need to make sure the glass fits the curve when all the body work is done..it is not good to find out it wont fit after it is Painted..hope this helps

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Re: I started restoration of Tokheim pump, HELP! #127088
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congrats on starting your pump restoration. I just finished mine christmas eve. what everyone has told you is right just follow their directions and you wont go wrong. Heres a link to pics of my pump and if someone says if you do one pump you'll want to do another. LOL it;s true I'm looking for my next project. Hey my garage has 4 sides......and the old mustang sitting there wont go anywhere ...http://s122.photobucket.com/albums/o275/workman1953/

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Re: I started restoration of Tokheim pump, HELP! #127089
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Vermonter,

You refer to your pump as a Tokheim 39 but it is not a 39 it is a Tokheim 300. If it has a 39 tag on it that is wrong. Sight glass is on the side, long nozzle receiver, door windows are horizontal not vertical ect. If you need to buy parts make sure you request Tok 300's not 39's.

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Re: I started restoration of Tokheim pump, HELP! #127090
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I never thought about the glass! Glad I asked. Unfortunately, the glass is gone from the pump, so I guess I better get some before the bodyman starts. Thanks for the save!
Yes,others have pointed out that the pump is a 300 and the one side was likely replaced with a 39( or maybe the little door on the side that has the id tag was replaced at some point in time) When I took it apart I noticed that that door was yellow on the inside while the rest of the pump was red. The frame is turquoise. Looks like there is turquoise under the red skins also except on that one yellow side.


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Re: I started restoration of Tokheim pump, HELP! #127091
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I did a search on here for glass for my Tok 300 but didnt see any for sale. Before I search other sites, I need 2 face glass pieces and 1 add glass piece for a Tokheim 300. Anyone have any? Think I should start a new post looking for it? Im still a little unsure on your posting rules here.
Thanks again, John


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Re: I started restoration of Tokheim pump, HELP! #127092
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In the past I have had problems with the Tokheim Not fitting back together if the body work was not right. The sides tend to spring outward after a dent in the radius. The doors also do something sililar and you can only see it bu bolting the sides back on and rechecking fit of the doors. As Mark said recheck that the meter glass and the ad glass(if your pump has them) will fit properly, its hard to bend glass.

Hope this helps Rich B

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