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#127093 - Fri Jan 19 2007 10:32 AM Bennett # 600
Mr Bill Offline
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Registered: Wed Jan 17 2007
Loc: La Verne
Hello, I知 new to this site and to the gas pump collecting and restoring hobby. I was given by a friend a Bennett #600 gas pump basket case. I was wondering the face plate I have has in the amount of sale four square cut outs the after market reproduction face plates only have three. Do I have the wrong face plate?? Also what year is the Bennett #600?
Thanks for the help,
Bill








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#127094 - Fri Jan 19 2007 10:41 AM Re: Bennett # 600
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I guess I got the picture wrong.Sorry
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/2817/ben1la4.jpg
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#127095 - Fri Jan 19 2007 10:45 AM Re: Bennett # 600
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Registered: Wed Jul 24 2002
Loc: Riley, MI, USA
Bill:

Welcome!

The book doesn't list a '600' - but if it has a four-hole faceplate, it was probably a fleet pump or an airport pump. With four holes for the gallons - you could conceivably pump 9,999 gallons! OUCH!

You will need to get a three-wheel Veeder Root computer for your pump to use the aftermarket replacement face plates. The VR units are at all the gas bashes and on e-bay quite often.

Good luck with your restoration,

Later . . .

Jim

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#127096 - Fri Jan 19 2007 01:08 PM Re: Bennett # 600
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Registered: Wed Jan 17 2007
Loc: La Verne
Trying to make this picture thing work.

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#127097 - Fri Jan 19 2007 02:44 PM Re: Bennett # 600
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Registered: Fri Dec 15 2006
Loc: GA
That computer was for hi volume usage as T-Way said...They didn't make as many of these
pumps as the 3 wheel...so that makes it a little more rare. The face is closed on the bottom which would be for a tall Bennett
like a 646...766 is open at bottom to let light hit the ad glass. The face you have is the totalizer side , you need another 4 hole face , non totalizer side.Someone out there should have one...The computer was probably an extended range ....it goes to 99 9/10,
limited range computer goes to 49 9/10
Joe
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#127098 - Fri Jan 19 2007 07:24 PM Re: Bennett # 600
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Registered: Wed Jan 17 2007
Loc: La Verne
Jkyocom and T-way thank you both for your help. So I guess I have a Bennett 646.. You guys are right this pump is very tall. Saturday I will take some pictures of the pump it self. I have a ton of questions. Also these two Veeder Root computers came with the pump.

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#127099 - Fri Jan 19 2007 08:33 PM Re: Bennett # 600
Dick Bennett Offline
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Registered: Wed Oct 25 2000
Loc: Santa Paula, Calif
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Althrough BOTH would probly work in your pump, the VR on the LEFT is period correct for your pump.

Might have been in a Truck stop, most Fleets don't care about the price at time of delivery.
Only when tanks are filled.

Are you in La Verne, Calif. ?
db



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#127100 - Fri Jan 19 2007 09:19 PM Re: Bennett # 600
Mr Bill Offline
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Registered: Wed Jan 17 2007
Loc: La Verne
Hello Dick, Yes I live in La Verne. Thank you for the information on the two Vr computers. Question, on the face plate what are the two slots for right below the amount of gas sale

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#127101 - Fri Jan 19 2007 09:20 PM Re: Bennett # 600
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Registered: Fri Dec 15 2006
Loc: GA
The one on the left is correct , that is the one referred as a crankback, the one on right is a semi-automatic and will only work on later pumps...there is a difference in the wheel holes and the faces will not interchange. The semi-auto came out in the late 50's in the 1066 Bennett, 39-A Tokheim 300 Tokheim..Totalizer wheels, bell and face mount "bar" are the only parts on those two computers that will interchange.Of all the computers I have had my hands on I have only seen about 4 of the 4 wheel computers...
Joe
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#127102 - Fri Jan 19 2007 09:23 PM Re: Bennett # 600
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Registered: Fri Dec 15 2006
Loc: GA
one is money, one is gallons
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#127103 - Fri Jan 19 2007 09:30 PM Re: Bennett # 600
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Registered: Fri Feb 15 2002
Loc: Edgewater, Colorful Colorado
The "slot" is the totalizer. Would have been read by the attendant at the end of the day to figure total sales for the day,,,,or week etc

LARRY
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#127104 - Fri Jan 19 2007 09:56 PM Re: Bennett # 600
Jack Sim Offline
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Registered: Fri Nov 10 2000
Loc: St. Louis, MO, USA
We read the totalizers twice a day, at shift time and at mid-night when we closed.
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#127105 - Fri Jan 19 2007 11:16 PM Re: Bennett # 600
Dick Bennett Offline
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Registered: Wed Oct 25 2000
Loc: Santa Paula, Calif
Mr Bill
In picture posted of your VR's, the one on Right shows the Totalizer [small numbers] between the larger wheels.

Do you ever go to the Pomona Swap [last Sunday] meet ? I'm always there, last 1 I missed was April/'90 [was in traction in hospital].
db
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#127106 - Sat Jan 20 2007 10:35 AM Re: Bennett # 600
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Registered: Wed Jan 17 2007
Loc: La Verne
Hello Dick, yes I go to Pomona for the swap meet I haven稚 missed one in many years. What I do is I go on Saturday so I can drive around I start at the north end up and down the isles headed south and when that痴 complete I start over again. You can稚 believe the stuff I find. If you are wondering why I do this rather then go on Sunday I tell you. October 20 of 2006 I had a full knee replacement on my right knee, hey! I just looked at the calendar and to day is four months. In March 2007 coming up I have pre-op for the left knee, something to look forward too!! When all said and done by March early June I should be walking pain free and that my friend is a blessing. Really looking forward to walking the L.A Roadster Show on Fathers day week-end... all though I知 in the swap meet area I rebuild and sell Columbia 2-Speed Axles and some early Ford parts.
Got to run I here the wife calling sorry to be so long winded,
Bill
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#127107 - Sun Jan 21 2007 12:46 PM Re: Bennett # 600
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Registered: Fri Dec 15 2006
Loc: GA
After thinking about this pump, as I said, it would have been a high volume pump....
more than likely it would have had a hi-speed pumping unit, a higher HP motor to deliver more product, faster.Therefore it should have had a 1 inch hose and a nozzle with a 1 inch spout.
Joe
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#127108 - Sun Jan 21 2007 05:29 PM Re: Bennett # 600
Mr Bill Offline
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Registered: Wed Jan 17 2007
Loc: La Verne
Hi Joe just got in,, went this morning to pick up a box full of Bennett parts that were from the pump my friend gave me. In that box was the name plate you guys were absolutely right it says Bennett 646. I also took the pump that sucker is heavy. Hold on a minute and I値l walk out to the garage and take a look at the spout better yet I値l post a picture. Ok I知 back I値l post these pictures so you all can have look. Thanks again for the help. Hey while I got you on line what is proper size globe for this pump?
Bill


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#127109 - Sun Jan 21 2007 05:58 PM Re: Bennett # 600
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Registered: Wed Oct 25 2000
Loc: Santa Paula, Calif
That nozzle is for a Boyle Dayton/Wayne Visible, BUT will work on your pump. Somebody on here is probly looking for your nozzle & should Trade ya a correct nozzle for your pump.
db

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#127110 - Sun Jan 21 2007 07:53 PM Re: Bennett # 600
jkyocom Offline
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Registered: Fri Dec 15 2006
Loc: GA
There is a gas pump blue book for ID on pumps, the ser # on tag will date it.
I guess they still print that book, if so does anyone know where I can get another??
I had one....on one of the first few pages my last name appears....I guess someone in my family helped compile the data.
The pistons in that meter weigh 1 lb each
most are red brass.
I would say a 13 1/2 glass body, I may be wrong.That pump was from the forties.

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#127111 - Sun Jan 21 2007 08:40 PM Re: Bennett # 600
pasngas Offline
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Registered: Sat Jan 07 2006
Loc: new plymouth,idaho,usa
sent you e'mail could really use boyle dayton nozzle to finish viso 83 thanks

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#127112 - Sun Jan 21 2007 08:56 PM Re: Bennett # 600
Dick Bennett Offline
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Registered: Wed Oct 25 2000
Loc: Santa Paula, Calif
GLAD TO SEE SOME NEWBIES POSTING
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