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#127387 - Sat Jan 28 2006 12:20 PM Re: Paint Removal By Electrolysis
danceswithpumps Offline
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Registered: Tue Mar 12 2002
Loc: Nebraska
I use the 15 amp setting on my charger. If the water is 65 degrees or warmer you should start seeing little bubbling near the metal and later some foam. This is a sign it's working. If you don't, the water might be too cold or you might not be getting a good connection at the alligator clips. I did learn to unplug the charger when touching the alligator clips. One very calm morning, while removing a door for my barrel, I removed one of the clips causing a spark. Evidently I had made enough hydrogen to be "set off" by the spark. It sounded like a shotgun going off. Not to mention giving me the feeling I'd just been shot at. I had messed with the connectors many times w/o unplugging the charger first with no worries but I don't do it now without unplugging. You would think if I can make hydrogen this easy, someone ought to be able to make it run my vehicle down the road pretty cheap. LOL
I also put a cement block inside the plastic barrel to keep the door/panel from contacting the stainless. This would be like the + and - clips touching each other.
Good luck!
Rod

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#127388 - Sat Jan 28 2006 12:41 PM Re: Paint Removal By Electrolysis
JERRY J Offline
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Registered: Wed Jan 07 2004
Loc: Eastpointe Mi.
Rod;

Right on - on all counts......

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#127389 - Sat Jan 28 2006 04:25 PM Re: Paint Removal By Electrolysis
chrisbowers Offline
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Registered: Mon Nov 22 2004
Loc: Baltimore, MD
Still going very slowly, not sure whats wrong. Its been in all day and the paint has bubbled, but not even to the extent that was shown here after 20 minutes. The water has stayed warm. I did, however, use Oxyclean instead of the Arm & Hammer brand stuff. After looking around online I was given the impression that they're pretty much the same, but I could be way wrong. Couldn't find the Arm & Hammer so I went with this.

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#127390 - Sat Jan 28 2006 04:49 PM Re: Paint Removal By Electrolysis
st.rod Offline
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Registered: Fri Feb 15 2002
Loc: Edgewater, Colorful Colorado
Chris, I followed this thread when it was new. And like you, DID not get the stated results. BUT, it does work only alot slower than most think. Walk away, forget about stated results. Lots of things effect time in this process. For me, it takes AT LEAST 24 hours. I don't know why. Altitude, I'm at 5280. Temperature, I tried it in a cold garage. Fact is it works and is almost FREE. I did figure out that the warmer the water the better. Larry

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#127391 - Sat Jan 28 2006 05:17 PM Re: Paint Removal By Electrolysis
chrisbowers Offline
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Registered: Mon Nov 22 2004
Loc: Baltimore, MD
Well, I just added some Borax (see if that does better than the Oxyclean) and switched the charger from 15a/6v manual to 15a automatic. So, I'll check it in the morning. I didn't notice that my 15a manual setting was for 6v, maybe that had something to do with it? I was tempted to stick it on 110a engine start, but that just didn't seem like a good idea

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#127392 - Sat Jan 28 2006 08:37 PM Re: Paint Removal By Electrolysis
travis_towle Offline
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Registered: Wed Jan 22 2003
Loc: Topeka, Kansas USA
I am going to go ahead and do this - save some money.


Travis E. Towle
Topeka, Kansas

785-357-1004

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#127393 - Sat Jan 28 2006 10:57 PM Re: Paint Removal By Electrolysis
Dick Bennett Offline
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Registered: Wed Oct 25 2000
Loc: Santa Paula, Calif
Chris,
Should be able to find "ARM & HAMMER" in any supermarket.
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#127394 - Sun Jan 29 2006 09:19 AM Re: Paint Removal By Electrolysis
chrisbowers Offline
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Registered: Mon Nov 22 2004
Loc: Baltimore, MD
Well, I let the panel sit overnight. I scraped off an area for better contact with the alligator clip and it definitely improved things. You could see the bubbles coming off the panel and it stripped a lot more paint. Still didn't really touch the rust unfortunately.

I looked in a couple different stores around here yesterday. Couldn't find the Arm & Hammer brand washing soda, so I settled on Borax which seems to be close. Its working way better than the Oxyclean. Not sure what else to try though.

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#127395 - Tue Feb 07 2006 06:15 PM Re: Paint Removal By Electrolysis
gulfiend! Offline
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Registered: Fri Jul 01 2005
Loc: Raleigh, NC
...I thought this was a GREAT topic, and wanted to bring it back up with some new (and hopefully useful) info...look here for Arm & Hammer Washing Soda (click on the links):
http://www.soapsgonebuy.com/product_p/ah1001.htm
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0006M64XE/103-2267374-7273404

http://store.43folders.com/kitchen-15755921-B0006M64XE-Arm_Hammer_Super_Washing_Soda _55_oz

...ONE of these should be able to get you some Arm & Hammer Washing Soda...and supposedly Shop and Save has a house brand...

...ain't Google a wonderful thing?

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#127396 - Tue Feb 07 2006 06:29 PM Re: Paint Removal By Electrolysis
travis_towle Offline
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Registered: Wed Jan 22 2003
Loc: Topeka, Kansas USA
TIP = you can get a FREE 55 gallon plastic drum at most car wash places, just stop in and ask the attendent. The cleaners they get come in these drums and they will usually give them to you for free.


Travis E. Towle
Topeka, Kansas

785-357-1004

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#127397 - Tue Feb 07 2006 07:13 PM Re: Paint Removal By Electrolysis
st.rod Offline
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Registered: Fri Feb 15 2002
Loc: Edgewater, Colorful Colorado
Just a point of info! Any metal can be used as the 'sacrificial piece'. Just type in 'Electrolysis paint removal' on your home page. One guy uses rebar! Does not matter. Stainless just lasts the longest. Even a mention about someone who built a 2X4 frame and lined it in plastic and did a truck frame!! You're imagine is the limit. A kiddie swimming pool is large enough to do a car fender. Does work well and ALMOST free. Larry

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#127398 - Wed Feb 08 2006 12:05 PM Re: Paint Removal By Electrolysis
travis_towle Offline
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Registered: Wed Jan 22 2003
Loc: Topeka, Kansas USA
Yea, I used rebar first - pain the the butttttttttttttttttt.... I spent more time cleaning the rebar then it was worth.

I will be lining one drum with stainless, and then cutting down another with 1 inch holes all over it, I mean all over it - the second will be put inside the outer barrel with about a 1 inch gap between the two. This will be an insulating barrel.


Travis E. Towle
Topeka, Kansas

785-357-1004

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#127399 - Wed Feb 08 2006 02:01 PM Re: Paint Removal By Electrolysis
chrisbowers Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Mon Nov 22 2004
Loc: Baltimore, MD
I'll have to check out the local carwash place, see if they can hook me up. I still don't know whether one of those 55 gallon drums will be tall enough to do 1/2 of a Wayne 70 skin. We'll see I guess.

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#127400 - Wed Feb 08 2006 02:39 PM Re: Paint Removal By Electrolysis
hoodchicken Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Mon Jun 13 2005
Loc: Dyer, IN
Chris Bowers:
Is there a soft drink bottler near you? I got one of those plastic drums from a Pepsi bottler near me for free. Still smelled like Mountain Dew, and they cleaned it out for me too! Your cut 70 doors will probably have stipes in the middle of them like my Tok 39 tall doors have, Im going to blast mine anyway.
-Scott-

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#127401 - Wed Feb 08 2006 04:22 PM Re: Paint Removal By Electrolysis
chrisbowers Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Mon Nov 22 2004
Loc: Baltimore, MD
Hmm, not sure about the soft drink bottler. I'll have to look around. I've pretty much resigned myself to having the stripes in the middle and having to blast the rest. Oh well, less blasting I guess

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