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#158669 - Wed Nov 04 2009 07:47 PM Re: Erie 71 [Re: oilmanpat]
Dick Bennett Offline
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Registered: Wed Oct 25 2000
Loc: Santa Paula, Calif
Unlike the 36/36B tops that have 4 tapered sides. The ERIE has an under cut all around bottom w/ 2 large ones for the site glasses.
Could delete the bottom under cut, but still have site glass area to contend with as in Oilmanpat's mold.

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#158743 - Thu Nov 05 2009 12:32 PM Re: Erie 71 [Re: Dick Bennett]
coopwyo Offline
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Registered: Wed Apr 09 2008
Loc: Cheyenne, Wyoming
Does anyone know the age range of this pump? The ID tag on it has a serial number of JH 2237.

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#158745 - Thu Nov 05 2009 12:41 PM Re: Erie 71 [Re: coopwyo]
Dick Bennett Offline
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Registered: Wed Oct 25 2000
Loc: Santa Paula, Calif
1936- 1938 as listed in Jack's book. With exception of GULF pumps, their next pump was introduced in 1940

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#159399 - Tue Nov 10 2009 09:50 AM Re: Erie 71 [Re: Dick Bennett]
coopwyo Offline
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Registered: Wed Apr 09 2008
Loc: Cheyenne, Wyoming
Does anyone have any up close pictures of the little door under the nozzle that controls the latch mechanism for the two main doors? I am missing the keyed lock that keeps that little door closed -- anybody have one? If you have a lock, I can get it re-keyed. I also need the L shaped piece of 5/16" rod that connects to the little door and the latch mechanism -- ours broke off right at the threads.

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#159436 - Tue Nov 10 2009 04:30 PM Re: Erie 71 [Re: coopwyo]
oilmanpat Offline
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Registered: Sat Nov 18 2006
Loc: Warsaw,Il.62379
Ok guys,it would take an aluminum mold that has hinged pieces laying horiz. around the top. This way,when you demolded the part,the undercut areas would pull as the hinges allowed the mold to open in these areas. I work where we have made several of this type of molds for different pieces such as the overhead console in a winnabego motor home, several of the plastic ends that are on the running boards that are sold aftermarket and even a set of molds that were used to make one brand of portapotties. After we had a mold we would still need to find a shop that vacformed or else try to do it on our own. I would thing that the people that make the backlit plastic signs would be the ones to seek out or their plastic material would be what one would try to use in vacforming this top.

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#159437 - Tue Nov 10 2009 04:33 PM Re: Erie 71 [Re: oilmanpat]
oilmanpat Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Sat Nov 18 2006
Loc: Warsaw,Il.62379
You would need at least 1/2 of a glass top if anyone has even a broken one to use to make a pattern.

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#162485 - Mon Nov 30 2009 09:21 AM Re: Erie 71 [Re: coopwyo]
coopwyo Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Wed Apr 09 2008
Loc: Cheyenne, Wyoming
Here are a couple pictures of a tool that my class invented to get the sight glass retaining rings loose on the Erie 71 pump we are trying to restore. The rings were really rusted into the cast iron top and I didn't want the kids banging on them with a hammer and punch. Leave it to a bunch of farm kids from Wyoming to utilize a horseshoe! The tool worked absolutely perfectly. We are still trying to locate a milk glass top for this pump. If anyone out there can help us out, please let me know.


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Description: Here are a couple pictures of a tool that my class invented to get the sight glass retaining rings loose on the Erie 71 pump we are trying to restore. The rings were really rusted into the cast iron top and I didn't want the kids banging on them with a h

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#162507 - Mon Nov 30 2009 12:51 PM Re: Erie 71 [Re: coopwyo]
jkyocom Offline
Veteran Member

Registered: Fri Dec 15 2006
Loc: GA
I saw on a show the other day where they used a blowing table instead of a vacuum forming table, to blow a heated plastic sheet into a 1/2 bubble.

With a two piece mold and a blowing table, would a repro top be closer to a reality??????
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#162568 - Mon Nov 30 2009 07:22 PM Re: Erie 71 [Re: chrisbowers]
SOUTHFLORIDAGAS Offline
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Registered: Sat Jun 13 2009
Loc: Wellington, FLORIDA
Well that all sucks because I need a top also for my 71 that is sitting under the dust so maybe it will continue to sit until someone, oh maybe like Ron. will make a mold. Hah ha. Maybe I will past it on to my son as a big paper weight.
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#162600 - Mon Nov 30 2009 10:06 PM Re: Erie 71 [Re: SOUTHFLORIDAGAS]
MATT ALVAREZ Offline
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Registered: Sat Sep 23 2006
Loc: Cameron Park,Ca.
SOUTHFLORIDAGAS mentioned Ron. He does nice cast iron parts. Why dont we have him make cast iron tops and we can paint them white to look like milk glass.
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#162604 - Mon Nov 30 2009 10:21 PM Re: Erie 71 [Re: MATT ALVAREZ]
gulfiend! Offline
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Registered: Fri Jul 01 2005
Loc: Raleigh, North Carolina
...would someone who has 'looked into this' please post the approximate cost of getting these made, in glass and/or plastic?...it's killing me, I gotta know...
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Looking for better Gulf items: signs, globes, cans and paper - especially porcelain Gulf flanges, and Gulf A-38 & A-62 ad glass...

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#162840 - Wed Dec 02 2009 12:36 PM Re: Erie 71 [Re: coopwyo]
coopwyo Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Wed Apr 09 2008
Loc: Cheyenne, Wyoming
What is the deal with the top on this pump? I've seen a picture of a restored black pump that also has this kind of a top on it. Is this an original piece, or something someone fabricated? The black pump I saw had a globe on it rather than the milk glass top and it looked really sharp.


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#162844 - Wed Dec 02 2009 01:15 PM Re: Erie 71 [Re: coopwyo]
Dick Bennett Offline
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Registered: Wed Oct 25 2000
Loc: Santa Paula, Calif
It's the Base of the Station Lighter.

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#162850 - Wed Dec 02 2009 02:06 PM Re: Erie 71 [Re: Dick Bennett]
coopwyo Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Wed Apr 09 2008
Loc: Cheyenne, Wyoming
What is a Station Lighter?

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#162853 - Wed Dec 02 2009 02:36 PM Re: Erie 71 [Re: coopwyo]
Dick Bennett Offline
Veteran Member

Registered: Wed Oct 25 2000
Loc: Santa Paula, Calif
Photo taken by Jack Sim @ Iowa Gas 2004

Station Lighter on a Tokheim 39

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