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#159486 - Tue Nov 10 2009 09:07 PM Socony signs on ebay, opinions?
gasmelincelr Offline
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Registered: Mon Sep 10 2001
Loc: Mass.
At the moment there are two Socony lubester signs on ebay, one is in India and one is in USA. My gut tells me they are repro, any opinions? Just type in Socony sign to the search. Thanks.

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#159495 - Tue Nov 10 2009 09:45 PM Re: Socony signs on ebay, opinions? [Re: gasmelincelr]
Esse's Garage Offline
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Registered: Wed Nov 28 2007
Loc: Janesville, Mn. 56048
Post a Link so we kind find them faster. Then we can tell ya what we think.
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#159519 - Wed Nov 11 2009 06:08 AM Re: Socony signs on ebay, opinions? [Re: gasmelincelr]
gasmelincelr Offline
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Registered: Mon Sep 10 2001
Loc: Mass.
My internet skills suck, breakfast sausage is the only link I can work with.

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#159521 - Wed Nov 11 2009 06:43 AM Re: Socony signs on ebay, opinions? [Re: gasmelincelr]
THE AMERICAN GARAGE Offline
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Registered: Wed Jun 02 2004
Loc: PECONIC BAY, L.I., NY, USA
THE INDIA ONE LOOKS A BIT SLOPPY AND I'D BE STUMPED TOO:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-Enamel-Sign-Boar...4#ht_3075wt_941

THE INDIANA ONE LOOKS THE SAME BUT IN BETTER COND:
http://cgi.ebay.com/1940s-Standard-Oil-S...#ht_1653wt_1167

FOR ALL I KNOW THE ARTWORK COULD BE A BIT QUARKY BECAUSE IT'S SO SMALL
(8 X 10")
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#159530 - Wed Nov 11 2009 07:51 AM Re: Socony signs on ebay, opinions? [Re: THE AMERICAN GARAGE]
roadrelics Offline
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Registered: Sat Dec 21 2002
Loc: Minneapolis, Minnesota ...USA
wow treasureray is featured again as the seller of this socony sign here in the states so that means its 99% surely a repo...he was just featured on a different thread http://www.oldgas.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=25883&Number=159130#Post159130 selling the fake Shell kerosene flange, license plate toppers & the list goes on & on....beware of "treasureray" on ebay
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#159541 - Wed Nov 11 2009 08:43 AM Re: Socony signs on ebay, opinions? [Re: THE AMERICAN GARAGE]
gulfiend! Offline
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Registered: Fri Jul 01 2005
Loc: Raleigh, North Carolina
...I am absolutely positive that these are fake signs...

...the typeface (font) used to reset the 'MEDIUM' and other lettering is either Microgramma or Eurostile (those are the font names)...those fonts were not designed until 30 years after this style of Socony sign would have been used...from Wikipedia:

Microgramma (similar to Eurostile) is a sans serif font which was designed by Aldo Novarese and Alessandro Butti for the type foundry Nebiolo in 1952. It became popular for use with technical illustrations in the 1960s and was a favourite of graphic designers by the early seventies, its uses ranging from publicity and publication design to packaging, largely because of its availability as a Letraset typeface.

Eurostile (sometimes misspelled as Eurostyle) is a geometric sans-serif typeface designed by Aldo Novarese in 1962. Novarese originally made Eurostile for one of the best-known Italian foundries, Nebiolo, in Turin.

Eurostile was developed, because although the similar Microgramma came with a variety of weights, it had only upper-case letters.


...beyond that, and more obviously - these signs are ONE-SIDED...the originals were double-sided and attached to the top of the spigot on the lubester with a clamp, one half of which was part of the sign...
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#159551 - Wed Nov 11 2009 10:03 AM Re: Socony signs on ebay, opinions? [Re: gulfiend!]
Dick Bennett Offline
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Registered: Wed Oct 25 2000
Loc: Santa Paula, Calif
Both look too SLOPPY to be original

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#159553 - Wed Nov 11 2009 10:16 AM Re: Socony signs on ebay, opinions? [Re: Dick Bennett]
THE AMERICAN GARAGE Offline
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Registered: Wed Jun 02 2004
Loc: PECONIC BAY, L.I., NY, USA
DOUBLE SIDED....THAT'S THE TICKET! BUT NOT ON THESE FAKES!
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#159572 - Wed Nov 11 2009 12:52 PM Re: Socony signs on ebay, opinions? [Re: THE AMERICAN GARAGE]
DP Offline
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Registered: Mon Oct 08 2007
Loc: Oklahoma
Those backs both have a familiar fakeness to them. Especially the India one.

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#159675 - Thu Nov 12 2009 09:33 AM Re: Socony signs on ebay, opinions? [Re: DP]
marxmobilgas Offline
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Registered: Thu Jul 10 2003
Loc: DFW Texas USA
yes the shield has many "deviations" in its straight lines. Some of the other letters have other "copied/traced/" quality issues.
Nice try on both but no, no, no not original.

They dont make them like they used to, thankfully so.
Mark

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#159838 - Fri Nov 13 2009 11:13 AM Re: Socony signs on ebay, opinions? [Re: marxmobilgas]
gasoildude Offline
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Registered: Mon Nov 29 2004
Loc: Oneida IL USA
I would agree fake fake fake!!!!
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