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36" United Service Motors FAKE REPRO Roadrelics #160608
Wed Nov 18 2009 06:51 AM
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United Service Motors 36"

made by ROADRELICS in Minnesota. Darryl T admits making these and selling them to for Famous Daves Bar B Q restaurant.

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Re: 36" United Service Motors FAKE REPRO Roadrelics [Re: t-ray] #160611
Wed Nov 18 2009 07:01 AM
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What is your Point?? He is Not Deceiving them like Some (T-Ray). He tells them they are Reproductions and they are OK with that.


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Re: 36" United Service Motors FAKE REPRO Roadrelics [Re: Esse's Garage] #160621
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Esse, THE Problem is they ARENT MARKED REPRODUCTIONS and when Daves sells them they will go into the market for sale. Thats what!

Re: 36" United Service Motors FAKE REPRO Roadrelics [Re: t-ray] #160640
Wed Nov 18 2009 09:38 AM
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The great debate on unmarked repos…….. I’ll give my two cents, some might not agree but its MY OPINION. Weather a repro is marked or not, the obligation still falls on the buyer. If a person is willing to spend hundreds or even thousands of dollars on an item, they need to know what their buying and feel confident with that purchase. If you feel that you can’t tell the difference in a repro vs. an original maybe you shouldn’t buy it? Save that money for something you’re sure about. I agree that there are many dishonest sellers out there that are trying to deceive us but none of them have ever forced us to buy something from them. If you are really that worried about an item, STAY AWAY!!!
This post is not directed at any one person or member but just the views of another novice collector.

Re: 36" United Service Motors FAKE REPRO Roadrelics [Re: gmstuff] #160653
Wed Nov 18 2009 10:41 AM
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I have talked to and met a number of collectors here, at B-J auctions and while racing. I haven't met one yet, who has ever said they can tell every original from every reproduction,.... right away. They rely on books and other knowledgeable people to help them determine if an item is real or a good, poor or excellent replica. All reproductions should be marked in some way. Not to do so has a distinct impact on this hobby and the value of all original items and inflates the value of what would and IMO should be affordable substitutes. It takes nothing to mark the reproduction, if it is massed produced even less than nothing to do the marking. If it is a "mom and pop" operation, it is now easy enough to mark the item. To not mark an item now is either laziness or dishonesty, again IMO.


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Re: 36" United Service Motors FAKE REPRO Roadrelics [Re: Bob Richards] #160663
Wed Nov 18 2009 12:29 PM
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i'll start by saying that is not one of my signs RAY HAS LISTED....just another lie..

..mine are neon....i only made a few and never even thought about marking them....They were hand painted with a brush on tin....the originals were porcelain fired on metal & i would have never thought there would be any confusion of mine being original...I think even Bob could tell the difference LOL...ITS HAND PAINTED WITH A BRUSH....ITS PAINT ON TIN, i never mass produced these & they were only used in a few Famous Daves.....they are not for sale at fanmous daves....they are for decorating purposes only & if you ever had a chance to buy one cause a famous daves went out of business, you should immediately know they are home made just by looking.....

i do put a business card inside the can for servicing purposes, & if i ever do another one i will make sure too mark the back with a date.....

Re: 36" United Service Motors FAKE REPRO Roadrelics [Re: roadrelics] #160690
Wed Nov 18 2009 03:21 PM
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WAS THE UNITED MOTORS CAR ALWAYS FACING LEFT? OR WERE THEIR RIGHT FACING VERSIONS? JUST CURIOUS ASIDE FROM THE SUBJECT HERE.


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Re: 36" United Service Motors FAKE REPRO Roadreli [Re: THE AMERICAN GARAGE] #160693
Wed Nov 18 2009 03:25 PM
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Once again this post is proving what? Nothing in my book.

Doc in Amistadis sign book they are facing both ways smile


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Re: 36" United Service Motors FAKE REPRO Roadreli [Re: gasoildude] #160694
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Originally Posted By: gasoildude
Once again this post is proving what? Nothing in my book.

Doc in Amistadis sign book they are facing both ways smile

Now THAT is another Whole subject


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Re: 36" United Service Motors FAKE REPRO Roadreli [Re: gasoildude] #160702
Wed Nov 18 2009 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: gasoildude
Once again this post is proving what? Nothing in my book.

Doc in Amistadis sign book they are facing both ways smile


i know this subject means nothing but ray just wants to stir uo some trouble

i feel if i am attacked that i need to respond & set the record straight..


.please kz don't go there, LOL......

Re: 36" United Service Motors FAKE REPRO Roadreli [Re: roadrelics] #160716
Wed Nov 18 2009 05:50 PM
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I hear ya there Darryl. My post was directed toward the first post & not yours smile


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