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Wed Feb 17 2010 08:30 PM
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My students and I had an absolute disaster happen to us yesterday. We have worked on the computer for our ERIE 71 restoration for about four weeks now and we had it working perfectly. We masked it all off for painting and got a coat of primer on it. As I was sitting in my office eating lunch I heard a big crash out in the shop. I went running out there and the computer had fallen off the parts stand and crashed onto the floor. I could tell it was damaged when I picked it up, so I contacted Joe Yokom immediately. He gave me some tips to try and repair it, so I stayed up most of the night and spent most of today trying to fix it. As of this evening, I don't think there is any hope for it. I can't get it to turn over anymore, and the number wheels don't line up anymore.
Does anyone know what model computer this is? I know it is a Veeder-Root, but that is about it. I am including some pictures of it so maybe someone can identify it. If anyone out there has one that they would like to sell, please let me know.
All the kids were really demoralized today. After working so hard on this thing just to have it get destroyed is really heartbreaking. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Chris
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That is a 35 variator & 39 head = #39 Take the head off and send it to me, if I don't have to take it apart, I won't charge you anything. But you may have to repeat some of the steps you have taken on the wheels & blinders....I'll get most or all the rust off too. it may come out cheaper than paying for a computer then the cost of shipping it to you...then there is the time of cleaning the new one.
If you send it to me pack it well .....you have now seen what UPS can do to a computer!!!!! I am going to send you to the office if you keep spelling my name wrong....LOL
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Joe -- My sincerest apologies for mis-spelling your name. I guess I thought you were related to Dwight Yokom the country singer. I'll get the head off the computer today and get it in the mail. I don't want you to do this as a charity case -- your time is valuable and if it costs us some money to get it fixed, then so be it. One of the major problems that I can already see is that one of the little ears that the pointer screws to is broken, and several of the gears are not meshing anymore. I guess if you can fix it, you are the man! Thanks. Chris
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If anyone needs to identify a computer just use this page on my website. http://www.petrolianacollectibles.com/veeder-root.htmMost of the pictures are from Joe Yocom. Jack Sim
Author, 1st & 2nd editions of Gas Pump ID book, 3rd edition is now available at www.gaspumpbible.comAir Meter ID book also available
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I looked at some of my cores.... I have a head like that with flat wheels . I will take in yours since the frame is broken and send you this one after it passes inspection.
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Do you have any idea exactly what year the cabinet that computer came out of was dated?.. 1938-39 to 1944 is when that variator & head combo was used in new pumps. I am still trying to narrow this one down to the year of introduction. If the tag is not dated the blue book should give the date from the ser. # Maybe Jack will look it up in his blue book.....
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I've looked all over it and I can't find any other numbers other than the serial number tag in the picture. I think the Erie 71's came into service in 1936, but that is about all I know as far as dates. Chris
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There is a valuable lesson in there somewhere for your students. Sorry, they must be disappointed after so much work, but we have all been there. Life is a bunch of hard work followed by disappointment...wait, better not tell them that. Just joking! John
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Joe, Maybe you can video the rebuild and send it back with the head to teach the kids. Of course, you might have to edit a few things out! Chris, I think this is an awesome way to teach your students. Sure would like to see pics on the progress of the Erie. Any of your kids think gas pumps are cool now that didnt before? I hope we get a few new, young enthusiasts from this project. John
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I'm not going to rebuild the computer, I don't want to take their project away from them. I am going to dig up a head, clean it and make sure it works and trade it out. They might have to re-do some of the things that were already done like the blinders, but they will be able to resume work on it close to where they had it....... before Humpty Dumpty pushed it off the wall Go to the gym and get one of the matts, put the computer on a short table in center of matt, surround w/ velvet rope,......
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John -- I'm lucky to teach in a small rural school that still believes kids need to be able to work with their hands instead of typing on a computer all day. I teach mostly woodworking classes, but I have the one special projects class that is working on the pump. The kids in that class all have an interest in "old stuff", but I think they have gained a whole new appreciation for the old pumps. The still cant get over the fact that there is a "computer" on something from the 30's.
The last project that we made in that class is a 1959 cadillac couch. A farmer about 20 miles from town had the car just rusting away in one of his pastures, so we went out and cut the back end off and made a couch out of it. I don't have any pictures of the finished couch on this computer, but at least you get the idea. We'll start on another 1959 Cadillac couch once the pump gets done. Thanks to everyone for the support and help on our pump project. Chris
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I hope that Cadi was far gone before you took a sawzall to it.
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Coopwyo, The serial number Joe asked for is from the pump, not the computer. Does your pump have a ID tag? Your pump is shown on page 142 of my Gas Pump Identification book (revised edition) and on this page of my website: http://www.petrolianacollectibles.com/erie%2070.htmActually, the Blue Book does not list the 71, but the 71s may be listed under the 70s, so if you have the serial number I may be able to tell you when the pump was made and it will give Joe more information about the computer. Another story. I had forgotten about this, but back around 1989 when I owned over 200 gas pumps I used to supply the skins to the local high school so that the students had something to bang on and straighten for the body shop class. Some of them did some nice work, but then there were some doors that weighed three times the original from all the plastic they put on them. In those days I used to sell doors for $20.00 each, two for $35.00, so who cared? Jack Sim
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I do have the ID plate off the pump. It says that the serial number is JH 2237. Down at the bottom of the ID plate is another number behind the words "For Hazardous Liquids No." 824937 -- I don't know what that means.
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JH 2237 is the # needed
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