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Check out the fakes this guy sells #17783
Wed Aug 15 2007 09:26 AM
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Was surfing the web and came across this http://enamelcollection.com/gas-oil-petro-c-77.html

Please use For Sale forums to sell

Please - NO offers to Buy or Sell in this forum category

Statements such as, "I'm thinking about selling this." are considered an offer to sell.
Re: Check out the fakes this guy sells #17784
Wed Aug 15 2007 11:55 AM
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Thanks Mobil100 , most of this stuff I've seen on ebay being sold as 100% Originals Now we at least know where some of the stuff is coming from .Thanks this is good Information


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Re: Check out the fakes this guy sells #17785
Wed Aug 15 2007 02:36 PM
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This is really getting BAD!!!!!!!
Look at the sinclair sign???
It's marked SP-2 JUST LIKE THE ORIGINALS!!
http://enamelcollection.com/pennsylvania-sinclair-dino-enamel-sign-pi-228.html

http://enamelcollection.com/green-streak-gasoline-enamel-sign-pi-227.html

Thanks mobil100 as I've NOT seen these!
These also need to be added to repo section!

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Re: Check out the fakes this guy sells #17786
Wed Aug 15 2007 02:56 PM
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Tom.........i posted these signs under "known unmarked repos" on 06-18- 2007 ..............the guy goes by "wholesalecandyshop" on ebay & is from Argentina..........
This new posting is of his website..........

http://www.oldgas.com/shoptalk/ubb/Forum8/HTML/000067.html


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...bayphotohosting

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Re: Check out the fakes this guy sells #17787
Wed Aug 15 2007 03:43 PM
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Darryl,
This seller is NOT "wholesalecandyshop" from Argentina. Note the website contact info...

73, rue de Rollingergrund
L - 2440 Luxemburgo
G. D. de Luxemburgo- EUROPA

However, these are the same signs sold by "wholesalecandyshop". I think this seller is closer to the source. My assumption is that the repops are manufactured in eastern Europe.

Re: Check out the fakes this guy sells #17788
Wed Aug 15 2007 05:04 PM
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check out the two Shell Green Streak signs on ebay. One looks like it could be real but the other one looks like one of these pop-offs. What do you all think?

Re: Check out the fakes this guy sells #17789
Wed Aug 15 2007 05:04 PM
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How come websites and catalogs can be set up and shipped out for reproduction pumps and signs and globes and all that? and that is accepted? Then this guy is selling repros and trying to create an "old" look with the signs, and he's some crook. That's funny to me. The problem is that there is support for reproductions to start with. From the very beginning, repros have been nothing but cheesy, wanna-be, rediculous, fakes that have done NOTHING to this hobby(or whatever you want want to call it)but take it down and jeopardize it. Repros suck!!! There is no "good" repro, there is no "ok, that's cool" repro, there is no "acceptable" repro to me...... I think that every single one lacks any and everything that this "hobby" is fundamentally based upon. They are nothing but true bastardized exploitation! That's it ....... just my true, hard(heart) felt, deepest thoughts and opinion on the entire matter. They are horrible. And they were brought forth and accepted by the people and friends of the people who now hate them. Don't support reproductions!!! OF ANY KIND !!! Down with the fakes! Death to repros!!!

Re: Check out the fakes this guy sells #17790
Wed Aug 15 2007 05:24 PM
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WITHOUT REPRODUCTION PARTS, VERY few pumps could be restored back to original condition.

WITHOUT REPRODUCTION SIGNS/DECALS VERY few could be branded.

WITHOUT REPRODUCTION GLOBES VERY few could afford to have a globe of their choice on their pump[s].

REPRODUCTIONS DO HAVE A PLACE IN THIS HOBBY, BUT, THEY DO NEED TO BE DATED.
Even in Kyle Moore's collection of gas pumps, decals had to be RE-CREATED to restore the pump back to original condition +.

I have yet to see ANYONES collection of gas pumps that DOESN'T HAVE RE-CREATED DECALS on SOME of the pumps.
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Re: Check out the fakes this guy sells #17791
Wed Aug 15 2007 05:40 PM
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Thanks for correcting me Pablo, it just shows this network is probably growing......

Respectfully, BBQ Chicken i wished we could only have originals however the hobby we have created only lets people with a substantial income afford these great signs of Americana.........I believe there is a place for reproductions so people who can't afford to go buy a $500 sign can go buy a nice repo for $29............However they should be marked, dated & sold by a licensed dealer only & i also know that raises more issues but we need some type of regulation........

this whole repo thing is turning into a monster & these people from other countries are trying to duplicate our originals & they bypass all regulations,licensing etc. etc.

i also know there are people here in the U.S. doing the same thing & they should be treatd just like any foreigner who reproduces these signs with intent to defraud......

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Re: Check out the fakes this guy sells #17792
Wed Aug 15 2007 05:43 PM
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I feel both Green Streak signs on ebay are genuine. The repro has only 2 mounting holes (top and bottom) not 4 like the ebay signs. Both signs on ebay have mounting holes in the same locations. Would like to see backsides of all three signs.


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Re: Check out the fakes this guy sells #17793
Wed Aug 15 2007 06:14 PM
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Someone needs to get angry and HIRE A LAWYER!
If I had BIG $$$ invested in signs, It would be NOTHING to spend a little chump change and RETAIN a lawyer to chase these guys down!!!!
Thats what it's gonna take!!!
Get the cops Knockin' on their door!


Tom
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Re: Check out the fakes this guy sells #17794
Wed Aug 15 2007 06:23 PM
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I just look at a repro as a repro. They are all the same - no matter what they are on, or if they are sitting by themself...... it doesn't matter. It's not true to form. From a "moral" point of view, it's totally immoral. It's contamination. They contaminate a true pure element and reduce it to a "well, this is the best I could do, or as close as I could get." It would be much more embracing to see a pump with either original decaling, or just a non-branded pump restored with an original picture near it of that pump from the era from which it came. Now that's to me, to me, I ain't the rest of the world out there, but I do know that a lot of people woud agree with me. My whole point with this is that a repro is a repro. There can't be a "double standard" where it's OK here to use a repro in this use or situation, but it's frowned upon when it's used here. IT'S STIL A REPRO..... FAKE. It's almost like, hey, if the maker(production) person is fooling people with his or her work, then they are doing their job! Right? If people can't tell and aren't educated enough to know the difference, then somebody made a good sign. Right? Death to all repros!!! Even parts, just leave it off, don't sterilize or contaminate the purity. Down with ALL REPROS!!! That's all I have to say about that.

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Re: Check out the fakes this guy sells #17795
Wed Aug 15 2007 09:12 PM
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I posted pics of the Green Streaks under known unmarked reproductions before I viewed this thread. Sorry, not trying to beat on a dying horse.

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Re: Check out the fakes this guy sells #17796
Thu Aug 16 2007 03:12 AM
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I think you guys need to take a closer look at the Green Streak signs. One is genuine but the one just listed does not have the same grommet pattern and look who is selling it. Our friend from Argentina. Wholesalecandy shop. That should prove what it is.

Re: Check out the fakes this guy sells #17797
Thu Aug 16 2007 06:45 AM
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Gary, There are currently three Green Streak signs on eBay. The first two are listed by U.S. sellers and appear to be genuine. The third which was listed yesterday by the South American vendor is the fake.


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