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Hello everyone,

I hope maybe someone here can help me or at least steer me in the right direction. My 91 year-old grandpa is selling his house, and the last remaining piece of his business. He owned a Phillips 66 in Oklahoma City that he inherited from his father. In his back patio is an original 1915 visible gas pump (5 gallon).

He is considering selling it, but is trying to figure out its worth. Unfortunately I live 2000 miles away so I can't take a picture of it, and no one near him knows how to work a digital camera frown

I do have more information from the side of the pump if that will help, but not sure.

Thanks from a loving grandaughter for any help!

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Welcome to Oldgas Jokiki.. grin

If you could give us his location maybe one of our oldgasser's could maybe help you and him out.

What is the information on the pump say?

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He lives in Oklahoma City still. Born, raised, and never left.

Headed out to my car to get the paper right now.


Plate on the side says: Guarantee Liquid Company Rocherster, PA
Phillips on the globe, tank is not branded, glass discharge

Then I believe on the side:
Visible Glass Discharge
For hazardous liquid for outside a building
27850 flammable

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Welcome Aboard Jokiki
Sounds like a Fry? How about a Model #???

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I am not sure, I can try to ask my Grandma or him to find out. Where would the model # be found?

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I may be able to swing by at lunch or sometime this week. Which side of town does he live?

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I'm in OKC everyday. I'd be happy to take some pics of it for you. I'd probably be interested in buying it as well. Let me know if I can help.

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There were no visible pumps in 1915. GLM did not come out with their visible pump until 1917.

My Gas Pump Identification & Value Guide is available on my website: www.petrocollect.com

A $35.00 purchase will save you $100s when you put the pump up for sale

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should be a little brass tag on front or side...
usually they are painted over or simply gone....
Once we get a model # OR picture we'll know Exactly which 1 it is...

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Thank you all for your help so far! My grandma is looking in her old pictures to see if she can find one, they are a little unsure of "people on the internet" lol. I will have to convince them that you all are normal folk, not crazy internet stalkers. I will post a picture probably by next week.

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I wouldn't go as far to say they are all "normal folk." LOL


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Amber--Depending on what globe it is, the globe alone could be worth as much or more than the pump! If its an old original Phillips globe and one of the rarer ones, it could be worth quite a lot! Get someone to take some digital pictures and email them to one of us and we'll get them posted for you and then you'll get a fairly true valuation of the pump and globe! Good luck----KEVIN


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Here is the best picture I have, my grandma sent me two hard-copy pictures and I scanned them.

Thanks for all the help you guys can give me smile

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The globe guys will tell you more about the globe, but the pump, was made sometime between 1922 and 1928.

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I just got off the phone again, he thinks he may have found the model #: 19049

Figure it may or may not help, but can't hurt to add more info.

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Looks like the (Fry) Guarantee 17(around 1927)...
Books around $2K...(However pumps have been soft lately)
Cylinder condition is VERY important....Looks pretty complete...
The phillips 66 globe is original as I don't believe they reproduce those YET???
Condition is everything with globes...The phillips globes are known to distort and break the lenses...(value 500+ if excellent)

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OMG! I can't imagine that globe outside in the wind and hail we have had this week! Tom sounds like he is right on the price.

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It is not outside anymore, it used to be, that pic is olddddd. In fact, it has been inside on his patio since I can remember...so at least 30 years!

I have not seen the pump in a long time, but from what they say the condition of everything is very good. No rust, stains, or cracks.

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The problem with many old pumps is that the manuf. did not put the model number on the pump. Many just put the serial number, but this is always misleading.

I once talked to the granddaughter of a man who made gas pumps, the name of the company is unimportant. She said that her grandfather told her that they always added at least 5000 to the number they put on the serial number. This would indicate that had made a great deal more pumps than they actually did. So, you can't really can't even rely on the serial number to try and figure out the year it was made.

Like we said, your pump was made between 1922 and 1928. 1922 being the year (approx.) that they started making the 17 with a metal bucket (?) on the bottom. Previously they came without the bucket and you were to have a 3' concrete base pored to put the pump on. The 1928 is the last year the company was in business, therefore the last year they made any pumps.

I wrote an extensive (two part) article for the "CTO" magazine on this pump and pictures of it are both on my website: www.petrocollect.com and in my Gas Pump Identification book, pages 174 to 176.

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