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WORTH A TRY.... #194296
Tue Jul 13 2010 05:45 PM
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LAST MONTH I SCORED SOME CHEAP ESSO REALTED SIGNS IN JERSEY. THERE WERE 4 TOTAL AND THE GUY SAID THAT IF I BOUGHT ALL THE SIGNS, HE'D THROW THE 4TH ONE IN FOR FREE. THESE WERE ALL PRE-WWII.

SADLY THIS RARE ESSO AVIATION PRODUCTS SIGN (9' X 3') MADE OF TIN SPENT A VERY LONG TIME ON A ROOF IN SOUTH AMBOY, NEW JERSEY POSSIBLY USED AS LEAK PROTECTION OR IN PLACE OF TAR PAPER(?). WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT'VE BEEN, THE GUY FOUND THEM (ALL 4 SIGNS) A YEAR AGO WHILE RIPPING OFF SEVERAL LAYERS OF SHINGLES. UNFORTUNATELY, THE SIGNS SAT OUTSIDE FOR ABOUT A YEAR IN THE ELEMENTS NOT GETTING OR LOOKING ANY BETTER.

ON CRAIGS LIST ONE NIGHT I SPOTTED THE SIGNS IN AN AD WITH HORRIBLE PICTURES THAT HIGHLY INTRIGUED ME. I SPOKE TO THE GUY ON THE PHONE AND
MADE PLANS TO COME AND LOOK WITH THE OPTION TO BUY ON SATURDAY JUNE 19TH. LONG STORY SHORT I CAME HOME WITH ALL 4 SIGNS ON MY 10' TRAILER.

HERE IS A PICTURE OF THE SIGN RIGHT OFF THE TRAILER:


I SAVED THE CLEANING AND TOUCH-UP OF THIS HEAVILY INFLICTED FOR LAST AS THE OTHER SIGNS DID QUITE WELL ONCE I PULLED SEVERAL DOZENS OF ROOF NAILS FROM THE FRAMES, REMOVED TAR AND SHINGLES, ETC.

I WOULD BRING OUT THIS ROUGHLY 6-7LB TIN SIGN IN THE COOL MORNING HOURS AND LAY IT FLAT ON MY OUTSIDE 8' X 33" WORK TABLE.

I STARTED BY REMOVING ALL THE FLAKING LOOSE PAINT WHICH MADE THE SIGN LOOK EVEN WORSE. I LIGHTLY SANDED ALL THE HEAVY RUST AND EDGES WHERE THE ORIGINAL PAINT MET THE BARE METAL. FOLLOWED THAT UP WITH A POLY CLEAR COAT TO HELP SEAL THE RUST AND BARE METAL THEN LET IT DRY:


I FOLLOWED ALL THE CLEAR COATED AREAS WITH A SOMEWHAT CLOSE MATCHING CORRESPONDING COLOR. I STARTED WITH RED, USING A FOAM BRUSH IN THE LARGE AREAS AND A TOUCH-UP BRUSH IN THE DETAILED AREAS
WHERE NEEDED:


I FINISHED THE RED AND FOLLOWED UP WITH THE OFF WHITE. HERE'S A PICTURE OF THE SIGN MINUS THE BLUE TOUCH-UPS ABOUT HALF WAY DONE:


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Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: THE AMERICAN GARAGE] #194297
Tue Jul 13 2010 05:46 PM
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CON'T....

THE BLUE AREAS WERE TRICKY, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE WERE IN OPPOSITE AREAS AT LEAST ON THE WINGS. I BASICALLY TRACED THE AREAS TO BE FILLED IN WITH OFF WHITE AND BLUE AND REVERSED THE TRACING ON THE OPPOSITE WING. THE OVAL BLUE BORDER AROUND "ESSO" WAS TOUGH BUT DID THE BEST I COULD WITH MY EYES AND JUDGEMENT.

I ALSO MIXED ALOT OF OFF WHITE AND RAN A FOAM BRUSH AROUND THE BORDER FOR GOOD MEASURE.

NEXT ON THE PROCESS WAS WAIT FOR A LOW HUMIDITY DAY AND THAT CAME THIS PAST SUNDAY JULY 11TH. AT 60% HUMIDITY I BROUGHT THE SIGN OUT AND POURED OUT SOME BRAND SPANKIN' NEW MINWAX SEMI-GLOSS CLEAR POLYURETHANE AND PROCEEDED TO ROLL IT OUT WITH A 4" FOAM ROLLER AROUND NOON UNTIL COMPLETELY COVERED. BY 2PM FULL SUN COVERED THE SIGN AND GAVE IT A NICE BAKED ON JOB! AT 5PM, I STARTED TO CUT LUMBER AND DOOR MOULDING TO SANDWICH THE SIGN FROM FRONT AND BACK FOR A FINISHED LOOK AND FOR SAFETY SAKE AS THE EDGES OF THE SIGN WERE TETANUS SHOT WAITING TO HAPPEN!

I USED 1X 3" #2 PINE BOARDS FOR THE ENTIRE OUTSIDE EDGE FRAME ON THE BACK AND SOME KIND OF COMPOSITE MATERIAL MOULDING ON THE FRONT SIDE WHICH CAME PRIMED AND I PAINTED WITH A WATER BASED ACRYLIC IVORY WHICH CLOSELY MATCHED THE OFF WHITE ON THE AGING SIGN. THIS WAS THE ONLY TIME I USED A WATER BASED PAINT. ALL OTHER TOUCH-UPS WERE DONE WITH OIL-BASED AND WITH VARIOUS BRANDS.

HERE IS A SHOT OF THE CORNER KINDA LIKE A CUT AWAY VIEW:


I LINED UP THE PINE ON THE BACK WITH THE MOULDING ON THE FRONT EDGE KEEPING THE SIGN EDGE SANDWICHED IN BETWEEN AND OUTTA SIGHT. THE MOULDING WAS 2.1/2" WIDE AND COVERED ABOUT 90%+ OF THE ORIGINAL BORDER.

FROM THE BACK ABOUT A 1/2" IN FROM THE OUTSIDE EDGE I USED COARSE DRYWALL SCREWS 1.1/4" LONG AND DRILLED IT THRU THE PINE, THE SIGN AND INTO THE MOULDING. ONLY ONCE DID A SCREW POP THRU THE FRONT SIDE DUE TO A SOFT SPOT IN THE PINE I GUESS. SO, FOR THE MOST PART THE BACK FRAME AND FRONT MOULDING IDEA WAS STARTING TO COME TOGETHER....NO PUN INTENDED! smile


(DINNER BREAK...PIZZA WITH THE FAMILY AT 6PM).

7PM, AFTER DOING THE BOTTOM SECTION OF THE FRAME EARLIER, I CAME HOME AND DID THE TOP SIDE THE SAME WAY. THEN THE SIDES. I COULD SEE FROM THE GHOSTY MARKS ON THE BACK OF THE SIGN THAT THERE WERE 3 SUPPORTS FROM TOP TO BOTTOM. I USED 1 X 2" #2 PINE HERE AND SCREWED THESE IN PLACE WITH 3.1/2" DECK SCREWS PRE-DRILLED FOR OBVIOUS REASONS:


THE NEXT MORNING I BROUGHT THE SIGN OUT INTO THE SUN FOR THE FINAL PHOTO SHOWING A SIGN THE MAY NEVER BE PERFECT BUT WORTH A TRY:


IT DEFINITELY LOOKS MUCH BETTER AND IS SOMETHING THAT I MIGHT EVEN HANG IN MY BASEMENT EVENTUALLY. NOT TO MANY PLACES I HAVE LEFT TO HANG A 9' WIDE SIGN! LOL! I KNOW I STILL HAVE TO REPLACE THE "U.S. REG PAT OFF" BELOW THE "ESSO" LOGO....WILL NEED TO GET STENCILS FOR THIS. THEN IT WILL BE OFFICIALLY DONE!

THANKS FOR READING AND LOOKING!

wink

Last edited by THE AMERICAN GARAGE; Tue Jul 13 2010 06:00 PM.

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Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: THE AMERICAN GARAGE] #194299
Tue Jul 13 2010 05:49 PM
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looks great doc!!


Looking for gas,oil related clocks,especially neon and spinners .clock repair available. Mick
Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: oldnfuelish] #194300
Tue Jul 13 2010 05:54 PM
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Turned out great!!


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Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: THE AMERICAN GARAGE] #194301
Tue Jul 13 2010 05:56 PM
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Looks excellent" " JOB WELL DONE "

wink

Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: HI-OCTANE] #194329
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NICE Doc!


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Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: DuceCpe] #194338
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Super job Doc, looks great. Love that aviation stuff.


Ed
Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: THE AMERICAN GARAGE] #194340
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Nice work there.

Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: barn_raider] #194344
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Very nice job !



Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: Scott Baselt] #194358
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Fantastic work!


Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: publicenemy1925] #194360
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Nice sign Doc! I have room if your having problems. Reduce the stress of deciding where to put it. Just ship it!!

Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: hillsideshortleg] #194363
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Good job on that Doc.


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Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: publicenemy1925] #194408
Wed Jul 14 2010 03:45 PM
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Doc,
You are truly an artist. Sweet work. I love the way you framed it out in white rather than trying to touch up the white border. I can't believe it's the same sign! Get that thing hung up in the house!

Great job!

Mac

Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: Mac] #194416
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Great job

Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: TomL] #194418
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Killer job! Outstanding presentation!

Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: tomzcollectiblez] #194419
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THANKS EVERYBODY FOR THE NICE COMMENTS. WISH I COULD SHOW IT TO THE GUY I BOUGHT IT FROM.


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Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: publicenemy1925] #194460
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That is a good looking sign.


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Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: publicenemy1925] #194463
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Great job making something out of an outcast. Had to do the same thing one time, and it is just as enjoyable as a perfect one. Excellent idea with the frame and one to remember.
Thanks Craig


Craig
Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: THE AMERICAN GARAGE] #194500
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Wow that came out nice! Neat sign!!!!!
Rob

Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: THE AMERICAN GARAGE] #194516
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Hi Doc,

Very nice work.What I like most about it is that you are showing that with a little work it doesn't have to cost a ton to have a really nice sign,and then you explain exactly hou you did it.Well done.

Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: Old Iron] #194522
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Well done. Thanks for sharing.


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Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: pollyman] #194955
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very nice job, well done !!


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Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: bowserguy] #194963
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rik glad to see ya back!!


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Looking good Doc.
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Doc, you did a great job fixing the sign. Jack

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im impressed and thanks for the tutorial.
John


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Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: Vermonter] #195171
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Doc
Would a small silkscreen work with that lettering?

Or would you have to worry about overspray?
Mark

Graphic artists chime in please.

Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: tomzcollectiblez] #195183
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MAKE OVER 101, GREAT JOB DOC!


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Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: marxmobilgas] #195189
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Originally Posted By: nbkz7w8
Doc
Would a small silkscreen work with that lettering?

Or would you have to worry about overspray?
Mark

Graphic artists chime in please.


ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE "REG U.S. PAT OFF." THAT I STILL HAVE TO DO?
I'VE YET TO CONSIDER MY OPTIONS, BUT A SILK SCREEN SOUNDS LIKE THE LONG WAY TO GO...UNLESS THE S/S PROCESS HAS CHANGED ALOT SINCE I WAS A KID.


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Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: THE AMERICAN GARAGE] #195346
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Wow that's a great job....... I'm going to be looking at rough signs in a different way. You made that sign come to life.


Looking for anything JENNEY OIL OR GAS
Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: tomzcollectiblez] #212038
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IT'S BEEN SITTING IN MY BASEMENT IN THE WAY UNTIL ABOUT AN HOUR AGO LOL!



FINALLY GOT IT OFF THE FLOOR AND DISPLAYED....WHEW! smile


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Re: WORTH A TRY.... [Re: THE AMERICAN GARAGE] #212510
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Absolutely freakin amazing job DOC.....

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