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Our friend from Argentina has a cousin in India #195646
Fri Jul 23 2010 07:44 AM
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absolutely_indian

http://collectibles.shop.ebay.com/Advert...d=p3911.c0.m282

absolutely #%%#%#%!!!@!@!@!@!!!! more like it

I didnt know they took 1 gallon cans and radiator shields and made them into porcelain signs....

Re: Our friend from Argentina has a cousin in India [Re: marxmobilgas] #195657
Fri Jul 23 2010 09:38 AM
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MARK DID YOU SEE THE PICKWICK GREYHOUND KEYHOLE SIGN, D@MM I REALLY LIKE THAT SIGN,VERY COOL! SO WHATS THE DEAL WITH THIS GUY ,OTHER THAN HIS PRICES ,IS THE SOCONY A FAKE TOO?


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Re: Our friend from Argentina has a cousin in India [Re: DIESEL] #195661
Fri Jul 23 2010 10:29 AM
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Chris
Do you see a maker mark on any of those signs?

Along with his Indian items he just happens to have nothing but porcelain only, no grommets, rusty backed, all "major" label signs-Rolex, Texaco, Coke etc?
No painted signs? No non "brand name" or "local in India" signs?

I wouldnt touch any of those signs.

I've seen that pickwick before, cant remember if repo or not.

Someone can chime in on the SOCONY meduim sign but my guess is fake.

Re: Our friend from Argentina has a cousin in India [Re: marxmobilgas] #195666
Fri Jul 23 2010 11:00 AM
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To me every time I see a porcelain sign with a rusty back, a "red flag" is raised. The backside was the protected side, it should for the most part always be the better side. I have seen them with small chips that became rusty, but not the whole thing. Vintage and antique signs, that I have seen and read about (a lot of you deal in signs and see a lot more than I do) the process ensured that a "full measure" of porcelain was used on both the front and back. Some of the fakes I have seen in antique stores, have a porcelain front, but bare metal back. Saves money and gives a rusty back.

According to the "Encyclopedia of Porcelain Enamel Advertising" by Michael Bruner 2nd edition 1999, very old porcelain signs can and will have many small spots where there is no porcelain. "Some signs may have over a hundred of these small spots. This would indicate a sign of pre-1930 vintage, as manufactures used methods that eliminated most of these spots after that time. This technique is for signs with the advertising only one one side."

Chris, as I said before I'm still a rank novice when it comes to signs, so I do what you are doing asking questions here and I picked up a few books that deal with signs. I mentioned Mr. Bruner's book, I also use "A Collectors Guide to Porcelain Enamel Advertising Signs with Prices" by Bob Alexander 1990 and Richard Amistadi's book "Amistadi's Antique Advertising -- Gas, Oil and Automotive Signs Volume One" 2005.

Each one of us has to decide for them self if an item is real or fake. But making a decision with all help possible, makes a mistake a lot less painful, IMO.


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Re: Our friend from Argentina has a cousin in India [Re: Bob Richards] #196025
Sun Jul 25 2010 03:03 PM
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The Festival butter cookies tin on the guy's store was sold either at KMart or Aldis, and may still be available there.

Re: Our friend from Argentina has a cousin in India [Re: Maps for the memories] #196032
Sun Jul 25 2010 04:44 PM
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FAKE! FAKE! FAKE ! Any thing from India or Argentina

Just a big red flag. Stay away.

Re: Our friend from Argentina has a cousin in India [Re: HI-OCTANE] #196077
Sun Jul 25 2010 08:38 PM
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Believe me and the rest of these guys! Anything this guy has is fake. I have personally seen one of them up close and they are very easy to distinguish if you can hold one of them!
Like nbkz7w8 says, why is it that he never has any real common or ordinary signs? Duh! Because they won't provoke a bid and this guy needs the cash to operate! NEVER buy from him and someday we'll shut him down!


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