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#226505 - Mon Jan 17 2011 12:09 PM Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines
Oldgas Offline
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Registered: Tue Jul 25 2000
Loc: South of St. Louis, MO USA
After some input from members and moderators, it has been decided to drop the display of a member's Total Posts from the sidebar of each topic post. This has been a point of contention that distracts from the community's real focus of sharing info, pics, buy/sell and generally help one another.

The total number of posts for each member is still shown on each member's Profile. Member Profiles are only visible to registered members who are logged in. That is to protect the member's info & email address from spam abusers.

Our software "bad word" filter has been adjusted to remove alternate spellings of some unacceptable words. It is not a perfect solution. In the future, members who post unacceptable words by using clever mis-spellings, phonics or look-alike characters will be considered as violators the Membership Guidelines.

Those who use words, pictures, video or links to taunt others into a conflict will be considered as "throwing the first punch."

Rather than react to a conflict with a reply that includes unacceptable content, members are advised to use the "Notify" button on each post to tell a moderator about the questionable behavior.
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#226506 - Mon Jan 17 2011 12:14 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: Oldgas]
Jarvis Offline
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Registered: Wed Nov 01 2000
Loc: Evansville, In
Sounds good to me Jim!

I think suspensions need to be handed out for actions. I don't like reading it anymore than the next guy.
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#226514 - Mon Jan 17 2011 12:53 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: Jarvis]
Lastgas15 Offline
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Registered: Mon Mar 04 2002
Loc: illinois

I was oblivious to the post count anyway. It's hard to imagine why it would matter to anyone.
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#226522 - Mon Jan 17 2011 01:05 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: Lastgas15]
oldgoaly Offline
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Registered: Sun Jul 26 2009
Loc: So. Illinois
Here I thought you guys were all just joking around, a fun loving bunch. Who got tarred and feathered????

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#226529 - Mon Jan 17 2011 01:34 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: oldgoaly]
Oldgas Offline
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Registered: Tue Jul 25 2000
Loc: South of St. Louis, MO USA
Jokes are OK as long as someone isn't attacked as the punchline. Fun between friends, but not fun between folks who are definitely not friends.

The moderators have had to warn about, remove or edit more in recent weeks than all the prior year. If more is coming, suspensions should be expected.

In order to maintain an enjoyable community, we have to strive for mutual respect and deal with those who violate the Membership Agreement.
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#226530 - Mon Jan 17 2011 01:44 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: Oldgas]
gasoildude Offline
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Registered: Mon Nov 29 2004
Loc: Oneida IL USA
Good idea smile
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#226538 - Mon Jan 17 2011 02:05 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: gasoildude]
Ryan Underthun Offline
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Registered: Thu Nov 07 2002
Loc: Duluth, MN U.S.A
Just for the record, there are no supreme members here, we are all on the same playing field. Please treat other members the way you would treat your mother (hopefully). The rules apply to everybody period.

Like stated above, there is nothing wrong with joking around. Name calling and harassing of other members and other people is not acceptable behavior.
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#226552 - Mon Jan 17 2011 03:16 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: Ryan Underthun]
gasoildude Offline
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Registered: Mon Nov 29 2004
Loc: Oneida IL USA
Ryan does that mean I have to hug you & give you a kiss next time I see you LOL laugh Please dont wait for it wink grin
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#226577 - Mon Jan 17 2011 04:40 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: gasoildude]
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Registered: Wed Jun 02 2004
Loc: PECONIC BAY, L.I., NY, USA
SORRY BRAD BUT THAT POST HAS GOT TO BE NOTIFIED! wink

TWO THUMBS UP ON THE REVIEW OF THE MEMBERSHIP AGREEMENT.
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#226580 - Mon Jan 17 2011 04:47 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: Oldgas]
Old Iron Offline
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Registered: Thu Sep 10 2009
Loc: New Mexico
Simple words cannot express my gratitude for what you just did.You just stopped on a national level what on a local level has made me essentially leave the hobby.I'll watch,hope for the best,and give it more thought.Thank you.

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#226581 - Mon Jan 17 2011 04:53 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: Old Iron]
LOWright Offline
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Loc: Louisville, Kentucky
Cool! I like it.
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#226582 - Mon Jan 17 2011 04:57 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: Old Iron]
minuteman Offline
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Registered: Sat Apr 05 2003
Loc: Big Sky Country
A quick question...curious as to how everyone acquires their member status....Veteran member, Petro Enthusiast, Active member. Moderator, Showcase Feature Host is self explanitory...thx mm
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#226585 - Mon Jan 17 2011 05:20 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: Old Iron]
1970mach Offline
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Registered: Tue Jul 01 2008
Loc: Ottawa Ontario, Canada
Good move..Some of the post in the past few weeks have definately made it obvious who doesn't like who...It didn't bother me personally, but there are a lot of good, helpfull people on this board that I'd hate to see turned off this site because of what has been taking place.
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#226592 - Mon Jan 17 2011 05:45 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: minuteman]
Oldgas Offline
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Registered: Tue Jul 25 2000
Loc: South of St. Louis, MO USA
Originally Posted By: minuteman
A quick question...curious as to how everyone acquires their member status....Veteran member, Petro Enthusiast, Active member. Moderator, Showcase Feature Host is self explanitory...thx mm


Good Question!
Veteran member= 1000+ posts, Petro Enthusiast= 100+ posts, Active member= 10+ posts, member= 9 or fewer posts.

Old Iron,
Thanks for the comments. I know I can never get a perfect balance of free speech and 100% considerate, respectful behavior. It could get messy at times, but we promise to try hard and not be overbearing on the 99% of mainstream members.
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#226614 - Mon Jan 17 2011 06:52 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: Oldgas]
Thunder II Offline
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Registered: Fri Jan 20 2006
Loc: On the plains of Colorado
Originally Posted By: Oldgas
After some input from members and moderators, it has been decided to drop the display of a member's Total Posts from the sidebar of each topic post.


That some of the best news I've heard. Thanks Jim.
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#226642 - Mon Jan 17 2011 07:49 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: Thunder II]
Nicole Offline
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Registered: Thu Dec 09 2010
Loc: Maryland
Corrections and agreeing to disagree work for me on this site as they lead to some interesting insights, opinions and great stories. Nastiness does not.

Nicole
Choosing her adjectives carefully... : ) : o : )

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#226651 - Mon Jan 17 2011 08:00 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: Nicole]
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Registered: Mon Jul 07 2008
Loc: Albuquerque, N. M.
I think some of these guys have nothing better to do than to see how many numbers they can have next to their name.

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#226663 - Mon Jan 17 2011 08:30 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: HI-OCTANE]
coheley5 Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Thu Jun 11 2009
Loc: Georgia
I agree , I love to ask questions and get different opinions I do not want to know why A does not like what B said.Thanks for more guidelines.
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#226720 - Tue Jan 18 2011 01:17 AM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: coheley5]
archer2 Online   content
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Sat Nov 25 2006
Loc: Marshall Va USA
Thanks for stepping in on all this. It seems a few have lost their focus as to what this site/hobby is about.
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#226735 - Tue Jan 18 2011 07:37 AM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: archer2]
Craig Osbeck Offline
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Registered: Tue Jan 06 2009
Loc: Portland Oregon
Good fair idea. Good to see that someone is looking out for everyone.
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#226846 - Tue Jan 18 2011 03:50 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: Craig Osbeck]
eshaver Offline
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Registered: Mon Sep 29 2008
Loc: richmond , Virginia
Jim, I'm here every day as I can, sometims a lot . If I have a comment or I can enlighten someone , fine . Many times as in pricing, I stay away from this as values fluctuate wayyyy too much and since I'm on dissability , my ability to go to most shows excedes my tiny bank account . Hey, the days of traveling several states away for a one or two day show for me are completely over for me .

This board at least provides me a way to see whats in the hobby. Many times , fellow members have been kind enough to provide me with pictures of actual pieces as I do models of petrolina . So what do you now refer to me as , a Model petoholic ?

Ed Shaver
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#226895 - Tue Jan 18 2011 06:11 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: eshaver]
Dale Stephens Offline
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Registered: Sun Jan 18 2009
Loc: Alabama, USA
Fantastic move, Jim. Glad to see it happen...
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#227023 - Wed Jan 19 2011 08:31 AM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: Dale Stephens]
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Registered: Sun Oct 21 2007
Loc: Mass
Another site I am active on had a conversation about post count, The poster was bragging about his post count in such a short amount of time. Here is 1 guys comment I Loved the response the Honda site did.
It's quality, not quantity that counts.

I've been on so many forums for the past 10 years and have watched as most of them have either hidden post count or made post count rules to keep from it becoming a competition.

Years ago back on honda-tech.com if you posted a new thread (or anywhere in another thread) boasting about your post count it would immediately be reset to zero, it was so great to see someone post a thread saying "MY 1000th POST!" and you could click in there and see "0" under his name, followed by his #1 post saying "What happened?" haha
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#227130 - Wed Jan 19 2011 06:25 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: KZ1000]
oillease55 Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Sat Jul 06 2002
Loc: greenville,ohio
I don't know how many posts I have but I've got about a hundred feet of fence out behind the barn. Thanks to Jim and the moderators. ;;;;;;;;Ron

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#228991 - Thu Jan 27 2011 12:52 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: oillease55]
cmeon66 Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Fri Feb 10 2006
Loc: Clinton, Illinois, U S A
Good move Jim. Thanks,to your entire crew. Norm
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#256050 - Wed May 25 2011 06:51 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: Thunder II]
AntiquePerfectio Offline
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Registered: Sat May 14 2011
Loc: Wisconsin
You guys have a great forum here, and I'm glad I finally joined. Been stopping by for years, but just now bought my first pump, and restoring it, so I figured it would be helpfull to join the discussion.

Thanks!

Aaron
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#312891 - Sat Mar 17 2012 06:24 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: Thunder II]
thatgoodgulfguy Offline
Member

Registered: Fri Mar 02 2012
Loc: Seattle
Ya know... I really have to re-think my membership in this OldGas group. I agreed a year ago that posting the number of member posts to the left should be dropped, as way too many folks used it as a self proclaimed badge of "king of the forum". Someone asked above "who got tarred and feathered - thought you all were just a bunch of fun-loving guys". Well, for the umteenth time, I feel like I just got tarred and feathered (again) in the General Questions forum for asking a simple straight forward question. So many of the posts I (and others) place are answered with put downs, ridicule, "whats-wrong-with-yous" and in general made to feel like some ignorant newbie collector. Quite frankly I'm tired of it and wonder what happened to good old fashioned pleasantness, helpfulness, and positive encouragement. People who start their replies with "No offence but you new collectors do realize" and then go on to try to convince others that they're top expert in the Petroliana collecting hobby just smacks to me of school yard bully syndrome. It really is too bad that some just canít help but put everyone else down in a vain attempt to boost their own lousy self esteem.
Again, I have to wonder is there anyone in this entire forum who understands courteousness and simple manners? Someone who is in it just for nothing more than having fun and wanting to help others?
Jim, I do applaud you as the moderator, but don't envy you as the one who has to police the thing.
Nuff said... I'm signing off.

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#312897 - Sat Mar 17 2012 06:55 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: thatgoodgulfguy]
Oldgas Offline
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Registered: Tue Jul 25 2000
Loc: South of St. Louis, MO USA
No question about it, when someone starts their comments with "No offense, but..." or "Don't take this the wrong way, but..." they should know that the next thing they say is probably insulting to someone. I think most members here are considerate and respectful of others, but a few are not. The moderators try to catch gross violations of civility and edit or delete them. When a member clicks on the "Notify" button in a post, we look at it especially close.

Sad to say, but online manners are often not what they should be. Some folks think they can type in a disrespectful way online that could get them punched in a face-to-face conversation. A good example is the discussion of politics. We haven't allowed that here for years, but on other forums and news media, it seems insults are the normal way of expressing a political opinion.

Sorry you felt like you were bullied. A few members do come off way too harsh with too little thought of how their words could hurt. When you see that kind of thing, click on the "Notify" button in that post and tell the moderators how you feel about it.
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#312904 - Sat Mar 17 2012 07:19 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: Oldgas]
thatgoodgulfguy Offline
Member

Registered: Fri Mar 02 2012
Loc: Seattle
Thanks Jim! Much appreciated!

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#312911 - Sat Mar 17 2012 07:30 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: thatgoodgulfguy]
Bob Richards Online   happy
Veteran Member

Registered: Tue Feb 22 2005
Loc: Longview, WA
I truly am sorry, that I hurt your feelings..... I was hoping to help you gain a little knowledge.... I may have done it clumsily but I wasn't trying to ridicule or embarrass anyone....

As to my knowledge, in June of this year I will have 50 years in this hobby.... So just maybe I do have a little more knowledge than some? Including you?

As to "courteousness and simple manners", hard to believe you would "call me out" and then write as disrespectful post as this one.. But, I guess for you being courteous and respectful is a one-way street? You deserve them, but don't have to give them in return?
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#373636 - Fri Nov 30 2012 05:12 AM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: Thunder II]
The Shoveler Offline
Member

Registered: Wed Nov 21 2012
Loc: Northern California
Hmmm.... Being a new guy here... I had no idea ya'll were potentially venomous??? I have not experienced that yet! I do, however, have a foul mouth. Wasn't raised that way, probably comes from hanging out with the rotten old bastards that frequent my life! I have to agree about the balance between free speech and political correctness... I struggle to keep my speech from to freely becoming politically and socially correctable, I mean, who want's to have to much correctability???
(I'm not to sure what I just said. Maybe I should have checked in here before all the beers with Los Batardos Rottons...hehehe.)

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#385383 - Sat Jan 12 2013 01:20 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: The Shoveler]
tx_oil Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Thu Sep 14 2006
Loc: Lafayette, LA
Wow... I don't check in for a while and look what happens. Seriously, if the state of things requires this, then let it happen. It's sad when a few who will not follow the rules affect all of us.
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#408675 - Thu Apr 11 2013 11:32 AM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: tx_oil]
Utah Gas Offline
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Registered: Wed Mar 30 2011
Loc: Utah
Although i don't participate often,i love this site. I have gained a lot of information and knowledge here. I think it might be helpful, if before posting, people would sit back and read their post like it was coming to them from someone else. without the smile,personality,and voice inflections of personal contact,words in print can seem to take on a different meaning than intended. Thanks, dave.

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#526976 - Wed Apr 09 2014 05:31 AM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: Oldgas]
redindianguy Offline
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Registered: Sat Jul 28 2012
Loc: Ontario, Canada
Originally Posted By: Oldgas
Jokes are OK as long as someone isn't attacked as the punchline. Fun between friends, but not fun between folks who are definitely not friends.

The moderators have had to warn about, remove or edit more in recent weeks than all the prior year. If more is coming, suspensions should be expected.

In order to maintain an enjoyable community, we have to strive for mutual respect and deal with those who violate the Membership Agreement.


Not sure why anyone gets mad . Its a hobby guys , a fun thing , a stress reliever . Life is short on earth , enjoy every moment .
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#559165 - Fri Aug 08 2014 10:53 AM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: redindianguy]
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Registered: Mon Jan 28 2013
Loc: Peoria, IL
would like to suggest that the 4-image limit per post be adjusted. (up to maybe 10)

to quote DB: "The 4 image rules were put into effect when lots still had Dial-Up services."

I dont think this really applies much anymore. and I would rather have my images hosted by OldGas so that they are available to others in the archives in the future
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#559206 - Fri Aug 08 2014 02:47 PM Re: Forum Changes - refining the Members Guidelines [Re: BryceG]
Oldgas Offline
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Registered: Tue Jul 25 2000
Loc: South of St. Louis, MO USA
Members can post more images in a reply to the topic, over and over. So there isn't a limit per topic.
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