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Re: eBay seller "lacie51" [Re: gulfiend!] #231952
Tue Feb 08 2011 06:39 AM
Tue Feb 08 2011 06:39 AM
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Roanoke Va
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One thing for sure - you're not going to dictate to me how to run my business or my policies on my store - we're doing just fine, while you sure can't please everyone, I invite you to look through my feedback - we run a professional sign company and possibly move more signs then any other company. We didn't achieve this level by taking advantage of our customers.

I spoke to Miles regarding his images and so you guys don't drag another decent person into this "whipping post thread", I decided to remove his images to keep his good name out of the topic!

Regards!

Re: eBay seller "lacie51" [Re: Mikemas] #231954
Tue Feb 08 2011 06:46 AM
Tue Feb 08 2011 06:46 AM
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Good idea, Miles surely does not need to be affiliated with a decieving seller.

I just feel bad for the buyers who find out they have been had by false representation


"Remember, history that is forgotten is doomed to repeat itself!"
Re: eBay seller "lacie51" [Re: gulfiend!] #231962
Tue Feb 08 2011 07:59 AM
Tue Feb 08 2011 07:59 AM
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Minneapolis, Minnesota ...USA
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with all due respect Mike, these signs these guys speak of are fantasy signs never made in this size or form...Ford had a large one very similar but not that small.....

hey losthighway,not nice to try & kick a guy when he's down, you say "you can't stand all these people who pull these prices out of a magic hat" .I don't think its really relevant what you pay or how you come up with prices, hey if you own it you can ask a million if you want & pull it out of a magic hat....

"losthighway" that is a good name, a friend om mine from Washington "David Webb" named his museum that same name many years ago

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Re: eBay seller "lacie51" [Re: roadrelics] #231972
Tue Feb 08 2011 08:51 AM
Tue Feb 08 2011 08:51 AM
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Tulsa, Ok
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I agree about the tricky descriptions. "Item was auctioned off as an original item"

It sounds like your 100% confidant that these pieces are original, then why not say that in the descriptions?

Re: eBay seller "lacie51" [Re: D Phillips] #232051
Tue Feb 08 2011 02:11 PM
Tue Feb 08 2011 02:11 PM
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Roanoke Va
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Ok, I guess I'm going to have to jump up here every time I post a sign on my site to make sure it conforms to all the experts - heck maybe you guys can just ride over to the auctions with me to make sure each sign is OK

I just put up a few more signs maybe you guys should check them out to make sure they are original or are these pop's as well?

200574457234

140510335474

200574462180


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Re: eBay seller "lacie51" [Re: Mikemas] #232055
Tue Feb 08 2011 02:27 PM
Tue Feb 08 2011 02:27 PM
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Saline, Mi USA
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Mike

I want to know who signed off on 15 day passes for the expert bidders. I mean heads should roll down there !!!

Be patience Mike, we'll get to the bottom of all this . ; )


Last edited by blacktee; Tue Feb 08 2011 02:36 PM.
Re: eBay seller "lacie51" [Re: Mikemas] #232056
Tue Feb 08 2011 02:34 PM
Tue Feb 08 2011 02:34 PM
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Duluth, MN U.S.A
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Originally Posted By: Mikemas
Ok, I guess I'm going to have to jump up here every time I post a sign on my site to make sure it conforms to all the experts - heck maybe you guys can just ride over to the auctions with me to make sure each sign is OK

I just put up a few more signs maybe you guys should check them out to make sure they are original or are these pop's as well?

200574457234

140510335474

200574462180



You are completely missing the point. It is not that all of your signs are not original, but how you word your auctions to trick somebody into thinking a sign is original with out saying its original. Perfect example, 200574356909 Why not just come out and say that this sign is a fantasy, because it is. End of story.

Ryan


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Re: eBay seller "lacie51" [Re: Ryan Underthun] #232061
Tue Feb 08 2011 03:10 PM
Tue Feb 08 2011 03:10 PM
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Longview, WA
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Or your flange signs, they aren't re-issues. They are smaller fake signs. Your AIR sign is a fake, did you buy it from TreasureRay?

Your fake "Old style" signs that you say are "real" porcelain in the header hoping to confuse the new collector, into thinking the signs are original.

The more people who read this thread and look closely at your words and your items, the less potential customers you will have, IMO.

You "play" with words to trick, potential buyers... It is your store and you can do what you like with it. But, you brought attention to your store, that you may not want in the long run. Thousands of people, members and non-members alike will read the comments posted here. A lot of those will now read your descriptions closely instead of skimming over them. They will see auction headers that don't match the descriptions. A 7 year old sign, is not vintage in any universe.


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Re: eBay seller "lacie51" [Re: Ryan Underthun] #232062
Tue Feb 08 2011 03:15 PM
Tue Feb 08 2011 03:15 PM
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CINCINNATI,OHIO
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Why can't you just say a copy , fake , or a remake of the original sign.....!m guessing you must have an upset buyer on here that bought 1 of your imposter signs......lol


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Re: eBay seller "lacie51" [Re: POLESIGNKID] #232072
Tue Feb 08 2011 03:41 PM
Tue Feb 08 2011 03:41 PM
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Posts: 7,812
South of St. Louis, MO USA
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Some very valid points have been made here.

Either Mikemas is going to take it constructively and change the way he chooses his words in auction descriptions or he chooses to ignore the points made here.

Let's not "kick a dead horse" with overstating what has been already said.


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Re: eBay seller "lacie51" [Re: Oldgas] #232103
Tue Feb 08 2011 04:47 PM
Tue Feb 08 2011 04:47 PM
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Destin, Fl
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Why is he even a member here then.????

Re: eBay seller "lacie51" [Re: Ryan Underthun] #232116
Tue Feb 08 2011 05:16 PM
Tue Feb 08 2011 05:16 PM
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Roanoke Va
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The post you mention is clearly marked:

Title: OLD STYLE 30" SINCLAIR DINO PORCELAIN SIGN 2 SIDE

Old style means just that - it is a copy of an Old Style sign.

The first line in the description says:

This item is a 30" Re-Issue of a vintage Sinclair Dino Station two-sided porcelain sign.

How much clear can I be? RE-Issue can only mean one thing " not original" I have sold hundreds of these signs and not one buyer ever came back saying they thought it was an original sign.

Looks to me as if only you experts are tripping up and not understanding the descriptions. My customers all know that we list our signs accordingly either Old Style or Vintage.


Originally Posted By: Ryan Underthun
Originally Posted By: Mikemas
Ok, I guess I'm going to have to jump up here every time I post a sign on my site to make sure it conforms to all the experts - heck maybe you guys can just ride over to the auctions with me to make sure each sign is OK

I just put up a few more signs maybe you guys should check them out to make sure they are original or are these pop's as well?

200574457234

140510335474

200574462180



You are completely missing the point. It is not that all of your signs are not original, but how you word your auctions to trick somebody into thinking a sign is original with out saying its original. Perfect example, 200574356909 Why not just come out and say that this sign is a fantasy, because it is. End of story.

Ryan

Re: eBay seller "lacie51" [Re: Bob Richards] #232121
Tue Feb 08 2011 05:25 PM
Tue Feb 08 2011 05:25 PM
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Roanoke Va
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No I don't buy them from him and I pay over $100 each plus shipping for each sign. I generally sell these for $125 and after fee's, I net a whooping $10-15. I list them only as a convenience to my customers. Bottom line all the guys who buy the signs love them, they are worth more than what we sell them for. My vendor assures me the signs are original and refurbished. Any other questions?

Originally Posted By: Bob Richards
Or your flange signs, they aren't re-issues. They are smaller fake signs. Your AIR sign is a fake, did you buy it from TreasureRay?

Your fake "Old style" signs that you say are "real" porcelain in the header hoping to confuse the new collector, into thinking the signs are original.

The more people who read this thread and look closely at your words and your items, the less potential customers you will have, IMO.

You "play" with words to trick, potential buyers... It is your store and you can do what you like with it. But, you brought attention to your store, that you may not want in the long run. Thousands of people, members and non-members alike will read the comments posted here. A lot of those will now read your descriptions closely instead of skimming over them. They will see auction headers that don't match the descriptions. A 7 year old sign, is not vintage in any universe.

Re: eBay seller "lacie51" [Re: Mikemas] #232126
Tue Feb 08 2011 05:33 PM
Tue Feb 08 2011 05:33 PM
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South of St. Louis, MO USA
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Looks like this guy will not change his ways. Beware of his auctions and murky descriptions.


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