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#232243 - Wed Feb 09 2011 08:07 AM Unusual Gargoyle sign
fast66 Offline
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Registered: Mon Oct 16 2000
Loc: Stockholm, Sweden
Never seen this version before, what do you think of it?
thanks,
Claes

http://cgi.ebay.com/MOBILOIL-GAS-SIGN-RA...=item35afd9c5dd

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#232246 - Wed Feb 09 2011 08:18 AM Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: fast66]
T-way Offline
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Registered: Wed Jul 24 2002
Loc: Riley, MI, USA
Claes:

Not real sure about that one.

The actual sign itself looks correct. It has a correct looking backside and seems to show some 'age' - but the "Mobiloil" lettering at the bottom looks computer-generated to me?


And the sizes/number and spacing of the holes around the outer edge is wierd.

That being said - the dude 'guarantees it' . . .

Later . . .

Jim
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#232247 - Wed Feb 09 2011 08:23 AM Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: fast66]
THE AMERICAN GARAGE Offline
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Registered: Wed Jun 02 2004
Loc: PECONIC BAY, L.I., NY, USA
THAT MAKES 2 OF US. COULD IT HAVE BEEN MADE FOR USE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY? I MEAN I BOUGHT A MOBILOIL SHIELD FROM URUGUAY ABOUT 8 YEARS AGO. I HAD NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE EITHER.

THE LACK OF THE N.Y. MENTION AND U.S.A. PRESENT MAKES ME THINK THAT IT IS FOREIGN. SOUTH AMERICAN? (NOT TREASURERAY ARGENTENIAN). JUST THE BACK ALONE MAKES ME THINK IT'S REAL. HOWEVER, I AM NOT SURE.

MAYBE SOME MOBIL PROS WILL STEP IN AND OFFER SOME REAL INFO IF THEY CAN.
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#232256 - Wed Feb 09 2011 08:59 AM Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: T-way]
fast66 Offline
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Registered: Mon Oct 16 2000
Loc: Stockholm, Sweden
Jim, I too think it looks pretty much OK. You mention the Mobiloil text, but I have more problems with the GASOLINE text that I think look like a steel from some other sign.
The number of holes around the edges are OK to me, as our signs of this appproximate size often were hung in a pair and screwed together (I'm hoping to buy on right now ;-) )IMO it looks good, but as I have been here and on ebay for ten years and never seen one I felt I had to ask for advise.
thanks
Claes

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#232259 - Wed Feb 09 2011 09:11 AM Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: THE AMERICAN GARAGE]
fast66 Offline
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Registered: Mon Oct 16 2000
Loc: Stockholm, Sweden
Doc,
I agree with you about the possibilities its being foreign.
thanks,
Claes

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#232300 - Wed Feb 09 2011 12:19 PM Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: fast66]
roadrelics Offline
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Registered: Sat Dec 21 2002
Loc: Minneapolis, Minnesota ...USA
Originally Posted By: THE AMERICAN GARAGE


THE LACK OF THE N.Y. MENTION AND U.S.A. PRESENT MAKES ME THINK THAT IT IS FOREIGN. SOUTH AMERICAN? (NOT TREASURERAY ARGENTENIAN). JUST THE BACK ALONE MAKES ME THINK IT'S REAL. HOWEVER, I AM NOT SURE.

MAYBE SOME MOBIL PROS WILL STEP IN AND OFFER SOME REAL INFO IF THEY CAN.


It clearly shows Rochester U.S.A. & I don't think its Rochester Mn.LOL.I think it is from the U.S.A., great sign & I would not be afraid to buy as 100% original & from U.S.A.


Edited by roadrelics (Wed Feb 09 2011 12:32 PM)
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#232514 - Thu Feb 10 2011 12:26 PM Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: roadrelics]
marxmobilgas Offline
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Registered: Thu Jul 10 2003
Loc: DFW Texas USA
Why would it say Rochester, USA? That makes no sense.

Either:
city/state
or
state/country

not city/country

I only see that on other questionable Gargoyle signs.

Font experts we need an answer....

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#232569 - Thu Feb 10 2011 03:35 PM Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: marxmobilgas]
Gas stuff.com Offline
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Registered: Fri Sep 17 2004
Loc: Syracuse,NY USA
It reminds me of the Gargoyle football shaped sign that showed up years ago. Only said Rochester USA on it. As we all know they were all fakes. Also Gargoyle was from around Rochester NY. The only thing I have a question about is the font on the word Rochester,looks kinda newer to me. I am no expert on fonts though. Mark are you out there???
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#232570 - Thu Feb 10 2011 03:37 PM Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: Gas stuff.com]
Gas stuff.com Offline
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Registered: Fri Sep 17 2004
Loc: Syracuse,NY USA
PS It's a shame nowadays how we have to question almost every new discovery sign that turns up.Thanks to the repro guys....
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#232717 - Thu Feb 10 2011 09:28 PM Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: Gas stuff.com]
57tbirdkid Offline
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Registered: Tue May 04 2010
Loc: NY
It's great that India and China took our Jobs....And our signs TOO!!! LOL
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#232737 - Thu Feb 10 2011 11:30 PM Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: 57tbirdkid]
Pegasus Offline
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Registered: Sat Mar 22 2003
Loc: DFW metro area
I don't think the "Rochester USA" is of any concern at all. Here's an old Vacuum can with the same designation.....plus I have at least 8 other "square" cans and a couple signs that are marked "New York, USA". The company headquarters moved from Rochester to New York City at some point, thus the change.



All that being said, I think that sign belongs in MY collection, so I encourage all of you to beware, it still could be a fake!!!

Richard

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#232743 - Fri Feb 11 2011 02:48 AM Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: Pegasus]
fast66 Offline
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Registered: Mon Oct 16 2000
Loc: Stockholm, Sweden
I think you need it Richard, you have so few signs...;-)
I got another round red border Gargoyle sign yesterday, that you don't have - yet ;-D
br
Claes

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#232750 - Fri Feb 11 2011 07:16 AM Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: fast66]
marxmobilgas Offline
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Registered: Thu Jul 10 2003
Loc: DFW Texas USA
Thanks Pegasus,
I looked on the net for an example and couldnt find it.
Still makes no sense-English wise having city/country and no state.

Yes with all the repos being currently manufactured/sold as OLD, we are VERY suspect of stuff we havent seen before. It is sad but the world this hobby lives in.

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#232761 - Fri Feb 11 2011 08:07 AM Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: Gas stuff.com]
gulfiend! Offline
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Registered: Fri Jul 01 2005
Loc: Raleigh, North Carolina
Originally Posted By: Gas stuff.com
It reminds me of the Gargoyle football shaped sign that showed up years ago. Only said Rochester USA on it. As we all know they were all fakes. Also Gargoyle was from around Rochester NY. The only thing I have a question about is the font on the word Rochester,looks kinda newer to me. I am no expert on fonts though. Mark are you out there???


...John, it all looks hand-generated to me, there are lots of inconsistencies between the letters that you would expect if the original artwork was hand-lettered...pick a letter (like the capital A) and compare them against each other, they're all a little different...if typeset on a computer, they'd all be the same...I can't find anything on that sign that says 'computer type'...for what it's worth, I think it's right...
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#232807 - Fri Feb 11 2011 11:06 AM Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: fast66]
Pegasus Offline
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Registered: Sat Mar 22 2003
Loc: DFW metro area
Claes.....looking forward to seeing some pictures of your new sign on BOTW Sunday......always hoping to add something to my "I've got to find another one like that!!!" list.


Richard

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