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Unusual Gargoyle sign #232243
Wed Feb 09 2011 07:07 AM
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Stockholm, Sweden
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Never seen this version before, what do you think of it?
thanks,
Claes

http://cgi.ebay.com/MOBILOIL-GAS-SIGN-RA...=item35afd9c5dd

Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: fast66] #232246
Wed Feb 09 2011 07:18 AM
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Claes:

Not real sure about that one.

The actual sign itself looks correct. It has a correct looking backside and seems to show some 'age' - but the "Mobiloil" lettering at the bottom looks computer-generated to me?


And the sizes/number and spacing of the holes around the outer edge is wierd.

That being said - the dude 'guarantees it' . . .

Later . . .

Jim

Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: fast66] #232247
Wed Feb 09 2011 07:23 AM
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PECONIC BAY, L.I., NY, USA
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THAT MAKES 2 OF US. COULD IT HAVE BEEN MADE FOR USE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY? I MEAN I BOUGHT A MOBILOIL SHIELD FROM URUGUAY ABOUT 8 YEARS AGO. I HAD NEVER SEEN IT BEFORE EITHER.

THE LACK OF THE N.Y. MENTION AND U.S.A. PRESENT MAKES ME THINK THAT IT IS FOREIGN. SOUTH AMERICAN? (NOT TREASURERAY ARGENTENIAN). JUST THE BACK ALONE MAKES ME THINK IT'S REAL. HOWEVER, I AM NOT SURE.

MAYBE SOME MOBIL PROS WILL STEP IN AND OFFER SOME REAL INFO IF THEY CAN.


DOC @ THE AMERICAN GARAGE
Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: T-way] #232256
Wed Feb 09 2011 07:59 AM
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Jim, I too think it looks pretty much OK. You mention the Mobiloil text, but I have more problems with the GASOLINE text that I think look like a steel from some other sign.
The number of holes around the edges are OK to me, as our signs of this appproximate size often were hung in a pair and screwed together (I'm hoping to buy on right now ;-) )IMO it looks good, but as I have been here and on ebay for ten years and never seen one I felt I had to ask for advise.
thanks
Claes

Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: THE AMERICAN GARAGE] #232259
Wed Feb 09 2011 08:11 AM
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Doc,
I agree with you about the possibilities its being foreign.
thanks,
Claes

Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: fast66] #232300
Wed Feb 09 2011 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted By: THE AMERICAN GARAGE


THE LACK OF THE N.Y. MENTION AND U.S.A. PRESENT MAKES ME THINK THAT IT IS FOREIGN. SOUTH AMERICAN? (NOT TREASURERAY ARGENTENIAN). JUST THE BACK ALONE MAKES ME THINK IT'S REAL. HOWEVER, I AM NOT SURE.

MAYBE SOME MOBIL PROS WILL STEP IN AND OFFER SOME REAL INFO IF THEY CAN.


It clearly shows Rochester U.S.A. & I don't think its Rochester Mn.LOL.I think it is from the U.S.A., great sign & I would not be afraid to buy as 100% original & from U.S.A.

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Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: roadrelics] #232514
Thu Feb 10 2011 11:26 AM
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Why would it say Rochester, USA? That makes no sense.

Either:
city/state
or
state/country

not city/country

I only see that on other questionable Gargoyle signs.

Font experts we need an answer....

Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: marxmobilgas] #232569
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It reminds me of the Gargoyle football shaped sign that showed up years ago. Only said Rochester USA on it. As we all know they were all fakes. Also Gargoyle was from around Rochester NY. The only thing I have a question about is the font on the word Rochester,looks kinda newer to me. I am no expert on fonts though. Mark are you out there???


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Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: Gas stuff.com] #232570
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PS It's a shame nowadays how we have to question almost every new discovery sign that turns up.Thanks to the repro guys....


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Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: Gas stuff.com] #232717
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It's great that India and China took our Jobs....And our signs TOO!!! LOL


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Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: 57tbirdkid] #232737
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I don't think the "Rochester USA" is of any concern at all. Here's an old Vacuum can with the same designation.....plus I have at least 8 other "square" cans and a couple signs that are marked "New York, USA". The company headquarters moved from Rochester to New York City at some point, thus the change.



All that being said, I think that sign belongs in MY collection, so I encourage all of you to beware, it still could be a fake!!!

Richard

Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: Pegasus] #232743
Fri Feb 11 2011 01:48 AM
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I think you need it Richard, you have so few signs...;-)
I got another round red border Gargoyle sign yesterday, that you don't have - yet ;-D
br
Claes

Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: fast66] #232750
Fri Feb 11 2011 06:16 AM
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Thanks Pegasus,
I looked on the net for an example and couldnt find it.
Still makes no sense-English wise having city/country and no state.

Yes with all the repos being currently manufactured/sold as OLD, we are VERY suspect of stuff we havent seen before. It is sad but the world this hobby lives in.

Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: Gas stuff.com] #232761
Fri Feb 11 2011 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted By: Gas stuff.com
It reminds me of the Gargoyle football shaped sign that showed up years ago. Only said Rochester USA on it. As we all know they were all fakes. Also Gargoyle was from around Rochester NY. The only thing I have a question about is the font on the word Rochester,looks kinda newer to me. I am no expert on fonts though. Mark are you out there???


...John, it all looks hand-generated to me, there are lots of inconsistencies between the letters that you would expect if the original artwork was hand-lettered...pick a letter (like the capital A) and compare them against each other, they're all a little different...if typeset on a computer, they'd all be the same...I can't find anything on that sign that says 'computer type'...for what it's worth, I think it's right...


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Re: Unusual Gargoyle sign [Re: fast66] #232807
Fri Feb 11 2011 10:06 AM
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Claes.....looking forward to seeing some pictures of your new sign on BOTW Sunday......always hoping to add something to my "I've got to find another one like that!!!" list.


Richard

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