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Question...mark or unmarked? #232965
Fri Feb 11 2011 10:32 PM
Fri Feb 11 2011 10:32 PM
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7 miles from Texas in Louisian...
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Lets take a poll.
should reproductions be marked or unmarked?
please vote and leave a comment.

marked or unmarked reproductions
single choice
reproductions should be marked
94%, 90 Votes
reprductions should be unmarked
2%, 2 Votes
don't matter
4%, 4 Votes
Total Votes: 96
Voting on this poll ends: 0 seconds ago
Last edited by texaspelican; Fri Feb 11 2011 10:35 PM.

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Re: Question...mark or unmarked? [Re: texaspelican] #232966
Fri Feb 11 2011 10:37 PM
Fri Feb 11 2011 10:37 PM
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7 miles from Texas in Louisian...
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7 miles from Texas in Louisian...
all reproductions should be marked!


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Re: Question...mark or unmarked? [Re: texaspelican] #232968
Fri Feb 11 2011 10:40 PM
Fri Feb 11 2011 10:40 PM
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Grenada, Ms
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i agree, it would definately make my job a lot easier and i wouldn't have to bug Paddy so much....lol

Re: Question...mark or unmarked? [Re: AllenBrown82] #232969
Fri Feb 11 2011 10:42 PM
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7 miles from Texas in Louisian...
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Allen, you are never a bother my young friend.


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Re: Question...mark or unmarked? [Re: texaspelican] #232972
Fri Feb 11 2011 10:44 PM
Fri Feb 11 2011 10:44 PM
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Santa Paula, Calif
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ALL REPOP & FANTASY items should be marked in a Permanent manner. Double sided should be marked on Both sides.
That way when someone is trying to Deceive the buyer, they will all be chipped to remove the Date in the same area.

Re: Question...mark or unmarked? [Re: Dick Bennett] #232974
Fri Feb 11 2011 11:00 PM
Fri Feb 11 2011 11:00 PM
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I think everyone knows where I stand... Mark every repop and fantasy item!

The only way values in this hobby will survive and hopefully grow is to ensure repop and fantasy items are marked. Every collector works hard to ensure their collection(s) are as complete and valuable as possible.

Some (most) collectors don't have a lot of extra disposable income, so they save for a period of time to be able to afford an item. An unmarked repop can hurt or destroy the hard earned value of that item.


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Re: Question...mark or unmarked? [Re: Dick Bennett] #232977
Fri Feb 11 2011 11:13 PM
Fri Feb 11 2011 11:13 PM
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Sure make it easy on the newbie. At this point. I'm scared to buy anything,thats not rusty,broke,or looks like it's been ran over two or three times by a truck. All though I realize theres a thing called Rapid Aging. Yes I know where Bob stands, seen the other side of you last night with the repo sign topic, still you was politely blunt.

Last edited by Loyd Pierce; Fri Feb 11 2011 11:20 PM.

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Re: Question...mark or unmarked? [Re: Loyd Pierce] #232978
Fri Feb 11 2011 11:19 PM
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Loyd, that is why we try to help new collectors and experienced collectors alike.

A big problem is, one needs to ask about an item before it is purchased. Too often the question of originality is raised after the item is purchased, then it is sometimes/often-times too late to help.


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Re: Question...mark or unmarked? [Re: Bob Richards] #232981
Sat Feb 12 2011 12:03 AM
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. Learned yesterday how to tell real sign pole.Look for plate on pole. I was looking for stamp on in side of base. Got to get humble enough to ask. Allways some one willing to help, reason I keep coming back. THANKS


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Re: Question...mark or unmarked? [Re: Loyd Pierce] #232982
Sat Feb 12 2011 12:31 AM
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Santa Paula, Calif
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Guess the 1 that voted for NO Date, stands to make $$$ of of REPOP items!

Re: Question...mark or unmarked? [Re: Dick Bennett] #232988
Sat Feb 12 2011 03:06 AM
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Plainfield Il. US
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MARKED!!!!!!!!!

Re: Question...mark or unmarked? [Re: JOSBORN] #232989
Sat Feb 12 2011 05:12 AM
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Marked, but not only to distinguish from originals...if it's a nice piece of work, what better publicity for getting commissions to reproduce hard to find pieces. I am guessing correctly identified reproductions and fantasy pieces have their place in the market or is this wrong? Do marked reproductions also diminish the value of the rare pieces?

Last edited by Nicole; Sat Feb 12 2011 06:07 AM.
Re: Question...mark or unmarked? [Re: texaspelican] #232994
Sat Feb 12 2011 06:00 AM
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I have been a member on this site since its infancy and original vs repo has been discussed so many times I can't count them. One question has never been clearly answered IMO, except for the affordability issue. Why would anyone even want a repo/fantasy item?

I fully understand the necessity for repo globes and the 12 inch signage for restoring a pump. Bought many myself when I used to restore pumps. A guy wanting a Polly pump is not going to pay for an original globe and decals...if they could even be found. So I have no problem with this segment of the hobby.

Now the unmarked or even marked larger signs, die cut versions and flange signs, globes, fake oil cans...these I do NOT understand why anyone would want one for their collection. "originals are too expensive". Well, so what? I don't have deep pockets and there are thousands of items I will never own because of cost. But you know what? I will never own them and I appreciate what I do have and can afford. I will not defile my collection by putting fake items into it.

I visited a collection once and commented on a couple of rare (and expensive) signs the guy had. I was very impressed until he told me they were repos. My opinion of the collection went from a #10 to a #1 regardless of what other items he had. I also lost all respect for him as a collector.

If someone can explain why a fake is desirable, please do as I have wondered this for years and just don't get it.

Re: Question...mark or unmarked? [Re: Gary Drye] #232996
Sat Feb 12 2011 06:07 AM
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PECONIC BAY, L.I., NY, USA
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UNMARKED = TAKING SOMEBODY'S WALLET FOR A RIDE!

ALL REPRODUCTIONS SHOULD BE DATED SOMEHOW....EVEN IF IT'S PHOTOCOPYING AN OLD ADVERTISEMENT FROM A MAGAZINE.


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Re: Question...mark or unmarked? [Re: THE AMERICAN GARAGE] #233001
Sat Feb 12 2011 06:58 AM
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I agree with comments here. All should have markings. It seems there has been a dramatic increase in the variety of repops. I am still learning, some of these are obvious. The others.........If it looks suspicious, I steer clear. I can only see it getting more difficult in the future to improve my collection.

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