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Gilmore sign #234589
Fri Feb 18 2011 09:44 AM
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Seller claims "Original" Gilmore sign
ebay # 330532349082


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Re: Gilmore sign [Re: advertologist] #234591
Fri Feb 18 2011 09:48 AM
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yeah trust a guarantee from the guy who spells it "GERAUNTEED ORIGIONAL" but who knows, it might be.


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Re: Gilmore sign [Re: advertologist] #234592
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Mounting holes are in the wrong place. Another high end repop not many know about. I was clued into this a few years ago by a very sophisticated west coast collector. The repop I saw even had the makers name on it.

Re: Gilmore sign [Re: advertologist] #234593
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Originals have small printing on bottom right edge, repop does NOT.
REPOP

Re: Gilmore sign [Re: Dick Bennett] #234595
Fri Feb 18 2011 10:02 AM
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I've seen re-pops with & without sign co. name at bottom right corner....
Dead give away is the mounting holes


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Re: Gilmore sign [Re: advertologist] #234645
Fri Feb 18 2011 03:21 PM
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Seller Changed his description, now he says it is a Repop.


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Re: Gilmore sign [Re: Esse's Garage] #234647
Fri Feb 18 2011 03:39 PM
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I remember 15-20 years ago when reading an article stating that the originals always have the makers name, and the repops didn't. I have also heard that they were produced by the original maker, Donaldson, in the 70's , if that is the case are they repro's or late production, no matter what they are identical and are awesome signs, if anyone wants to sell me one I'd like to have a couple more for a future station. Does anyone know for sure without speculating or repeating heresay?


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Re: Gilmore sign [Re: Pogo's Garage] #234681
Fri Feb 18 2011 05:47 PM
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They are not "identical"
as far as heresay- I got it right out of the horses mouth that had them re-done in the 70's. I always thought the one I had was original until one day a visitor was looking at that sign & said that is a later addition sign, I asked him how he knew that and he said because he was the one that did it, he went to the sign company and they still had the dies- since then I did get an original from him..have seen the later additions with & without sign co on botom right.


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Re: Gilmore sign [Re: advertologist] #234683
Fri Feb 18 2011 05:58 PM
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Thats good information, and obviously from a reliable source, if they are not identical could you help by identifying the distiguishable differences. I have had 3, and in reviewing my photos, the one I have now looks identical excpet it is near mint and the position of the mounting holes.


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Re: Gilmore sign [Re: Pogo's Garage] #234690
Fri Feb 18 2011 06:41 PM
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The top one is the original..mounting holes closer to edge
note on bottom the outside yellow border is wider
Both the top & the bottom signs read in bottom right corner
THE DONALDSON ART SIGN CO. COVINGTON, KY
Bottom sign appears to be a little longer length wise,
maybe 3/16th"..sorry for the poor picture as I was holding bottom sign while taking picture

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Re: Gilmore sign [Re: advertologist] #234703
Fri Feb 18 2011 07:52 PM
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Nice to see the seller took the "info" and updated the auction.

advertologist, I have had both old and new versions but never at the same time to compare each. The one I have now (original) has taller lettering for the "Donaldson Art ..." The repo had smaller/shorter lettering. Is this the case with the two you have?

They are so close in look, easy to get the two confused. I unknowingly sold the repo one I had as an original, to a member on this site. I had been told that is was an original by a couple people but was told by the buyer that it wasn't. It was one of the latter ones. I offered full refund but he kept it anyways. Always have felt kinda stupid about it. At that time, I only knew about looking for the "Donaldson Art ..." marking, never knew about the hole placements.


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Re: Gilmore sign [Re: GILMORE] #234708
Fri Feb 18 2011 08:12 PM
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advertologist, I have had both old and new versions but never at the same time to compare each. The one I have now (original) has taller lettering for the "Donaldson Art ..." The repo had smaller/shorter lettering. Is this the case with the two you have?

Just compared the 2....That is correct-
Now we have 3 differences, mounting holes, wider yellow border & the size of Donaldson Art..


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Re: Gilmore sign [Re: advertologist] #234790
Sat Feb 19 2011 10:17 AM
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Thanks for sharing the details. Not being a Sign collector, I am happy to have a quality repro, as a guy that sells the occasional piece, it's nice to be able to know what to look for.


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Re: Gilmore sign [Re: Pogo's Garage] #234814
Sat Feb 19 2011 01:18 PM
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OK, so looking at the photos below, you can see the differences in the border, holes and "Donaldson" lettering. The one on top is an original, and the one on the bottom is obviously a repro. Thanks for your help, I hope this will serve collectors in the future, this sign has long been a problem, but I think we have nailed it down for posterity



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Re: Gilmore sign [Re: Pogo's Garage] #234861
Sat Feb 19 2011 05:19 PM
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ok guys i have a question i bought a sign few years ago from a aumann auction that was said to be a repo of only 100 made and mine does not say donaldson on it but the hole location is like the repo you show so is mine the 1st or 2nd ed sign thanks dave

Re: Gilmore sign [Re: warriorgas] #234865
Sat Feb 19 2011 05:40 PM
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Yours is like the one on ebay # 330532349082
They were made (re-issues) with & without
the sign co. name


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Re: Gilmore sign [Re: advertologist] #234948
Sun Feb 20 2011 07:43 AM
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so the big question what are they worth, the story i was told is they made 100 of them thanks dave

Re: Gilmore sign [Re: warriorgas] #258668
Sun Jun 12 2011 11:14 PM
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Another repro on ebay that is "claimed" to be an original...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120737125995


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Re: Gilmore sign [Re: GILMORE] #258682
Mon Jun 13 2011 04:57 AM
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The guy says( Apparently this is a very early reproduction )


I don't see where he says original in his listing.

Re: Gilmore sign [Re: HI-OCTANE] #258755
Mon Jun 13 2011 12:17 PM
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I notified seller last night and he/they changed the description.


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Re: Gilmore sign [Re: GILMORE] #532089
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I want one of these bad, but too many repop's... scary.

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