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The Picture Pirates #23694
Wed Feb 13 2008 07:45 PM
Wed Feb 13 2008 07:45 PM
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On the plains of Colorado
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Here is a copy on an e-mail, that I recently recieved.....

Joined: 23 Jun 2007
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Location: Dwaine Buck, Big Valley, California
Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:18 am Post subject:

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Good Morning to you. Been working on some globe art, Fargo oil Co, from Colorado.
Glad your feeling better Cheese.
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Its things like this, that prevent a lot of people, from posting pics here on Oldgas.... Because of this, I have deleted my Far-go pics, from the current C.O.T.M. feature. It is without a doubt, that these people, have already copied these images, and started in their, immoral, unethical, reproduction of these globes, and/or decals. I have already been in contact with Jim Treadway, at T-ways Graphics, so that we could reproduce these images, and started these discussions, about a month ago. We have already started to check with the appropriate parties, so that we could reproduce these WITHOUT infringing on any copyrights and/or ownerships. I was hoping that my discovery, of the Far-Go decal, would be a benefit to those of us interested in local companies. I was also hoping that this image, would be handled in a better way, than the Powerine "Bearcat" image, which I also found. Apparently I was incorrect in hoping that the images would NOT be copied.

And unlike the last time, that I commented about a similar situation, if you have any comments about this, POST it here, so that everybody can see it. NO MORE INSULTS ABOUT MY MOTHER! You know who you are!

It is my opinion, that this theivery of images, should be addressed.

[This message has been edited by Thunder II (edited 02-13-2008).]


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Re: The Picture Pirates #23695
Wed Feb 13 2008 09:14 PM
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I understand your drift, but I really don't understand what is going on. I went to the link, but it said under construction, I don't understand why I was looking at this. Can you explain this a little better without naming names, etc.
Jack Sim


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Re: The Picture Pirates #23696
Wed Feb 13 2008 09:44 PM
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Simply put Jack... There are people, that will copy images posted here, and make decals, signs and/or globes, of those images, without permission of the owners. I had posted pics of a few Far-Go items, in the C.O.T.M. feature. I was planning on reproducing these, after I found out if it would be legal to do so. Somebody else took it upon himself to say that he was planning on producing them. He has been known to pirate images, misrepresent "fantasy" images as rare, and even fabricate false histories, to justify his work. Its just my opinion, that his approach to his self promoting is, well, in a word, Cheesy. He has his own agenda to stir up trouble, and rally his followers, to speak for him, rather than speak for himself.


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Re: The Picture Pirates #23697
Wed Feb 13 2008 10:30 PM
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I just had to entertain myself. I took a look at Duane Bucks site. Sure enough, he posted MY PICTURE, of MY Far-Go sign, WITHOUT my permission. Class act Duane! You should be proud of yourself!


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Re: The Picture Pirates #23698
Thu Feb 14 2008 01:06 PM
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Following is the only comment I will make on this thread:

Just to make the record straight, I was asked to work on an AA Vickers image for a future globe lens. Once I had it in the rough and sent it out to my customers for their approval, I received an e-mail from a Colorado collector with the two Far-go images attached to the e-mail asking if I thought these images could be produced. I answered that I didn't think so because I thought they were too plain, but I would ask my customers if anyone was interested. One responded "yes" and seven responded "no." So I have no plan of producing these images and will remove them from my website.

"Class Act":
My version of a "class act": A collector saves his money all year to go to Iowa Gas as he hears it's the best show going. He visits with a lot of friends, meets a lot of new friends, and goes to the Bash only to find four guys wearing and passing out hate buttons with his name on it. Now that's a "Class Act" for you!

Re: The Picture Pirates #23699
Thu Feb 14 2008 04:39 PM
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Just please answer a VERY important question. What gives you, Dwaine Buck, the right, to post MY picture, of My sign, on your website, as your work? Thats MY picture! You stole it, and posted it on your site! WHAT gives you the right?


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Re: The Picture Pirates #23700
Thu Feb 14 2008 05:51 PM
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Welcome to Oldgas, the finest most mature site on the web! LOL

Re: The Picture Pirates #23701
Thu Feb 14 2008 06:26 PM
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Leave it alone !!!, It's really between two individuals !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: The Picture Pirates #23702
Thu Feb 14 2008 06:31 PM
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Each party has had their say in this. This is a dispute between these people, so we expect it to be worked out privately or through attorneys, not aired out here on this forum.

The use of images without permission is an ongoing problem. There are legal ownership and copyright issues that are best discussed with a knowledgeable intellectual property attorney. Images posted on Oldgas.com Shop Talk are protected by copyright on behalf of the image owner. Members do give Primarily Petroliana permission to display the image on the Web.

The moderators expect that all registered and unregistered users respect the ownership rights to any images posted here.

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Re: The Picture Pirates #23703
Thu Feb 14 2008 06:38 PM
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Please settle/discuss this privately outside of oldgas.


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Re: The Picture Pirates #23704
Thu Feb 14 2008 07:00 PM
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Thunder's image is not the only one.

Re: The Picture Pirates #23705
Thu Feb 14 2008 07:54 PM
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As far as Fairlanes comment..... Its a fact that my pic was stolen, and posted on Dwaine Bucks site, as his work! So what gives him the right? Crickets. How can you deny that those actions are theivery? Still waiting for an answer Dwaine.....


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Re: The Picture Pirates #23706
Thu Feb 14 2008 08:40 PM
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I've had a question about the comment I made about the "Bearcat" images. To clarify that, the original image, is not perfectly oval shaped. I was also hoping to have it made as a water transfer decal, not a vinyl decal. However, the current decal was nicely done. Good work Koz.


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Re: The Picture Pirates #23707
Thu Feb 14 2008 08:49 PM
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I have to take this opportunity to thank Jeff Cerami (Thunder) for having the great luck of discovering the Bearcat decal under layers of paint on a 36B door panel. Without HIM the Bearcat Globe would not be today!

I hope to have a Far-Go globe as well.

Hope ya' have many more finds!

Larry


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Re: The Picture Pirates #23708
Sat Feb 16 2008 01:46 PM
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A Question for thunder:
It's pretty well known by anybody that frequents Oldgas that you don't like Dwaine Buck, but I was wondering if you could comment on the last part of his post in this thread.

Here is Dwaine's quote:

"Class Act":
"My version of a "class act": A collector saves his money all year to go to Iowa Gas as he hears it's the best show going. He visits with a lot of friends, meets a lot of new friends, and goes to the Bash only to find four guys wearing and passing out hate buttons with his name on it. Now that's a "Class Act" for you!"

I am awaiting the response of someone who says he speaks the truth.... Ahem.
bob

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