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Re: My Next Sign Restoration [Re: TheRoyalCrown] #352409
Thu Aug 30 2012 10:04 PM
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I also hope GasCan didnt get this one.

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Re: My Next Sign Restoration [Re: TheRoyalCrown] #352412
Thu Aug 30 2012 10:11 PM
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Just North of Atlanta, Ga.
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I looked pretty hard and can't find any differences.


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Re: My Next Sign Restoration [Re: Here's Your Sign] #352414
Thu Aug 30 2012 10:16 PM
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Except for the chrome in the eBay pic on the sides not being covered up.

Re: My Next Sign Restoration [Re: TheRoyalCrown] #352415
Thu Aug 30 2012 10:21 PM
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Just North of Atlanta, Ga.
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In the pic on here it just appears to be taped off. Which would make sense if it was gonna be sprayed.


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Re: My Next Sign Restoration [Re: minuteman] #352421
Fri Aug 31 2012 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted By: minuteman
This is how it starts with made up signs...and below is how it ends up for some unknowing sucker...great description..

ebay 330743877131


Bingo...


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Re: My Next Sign Restoration [Re: gulfiend!] #352426
Fri Aug 31 2012 04:11 AM
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To help Colin's defense,I attended his auction back in the spring when he sold this item.Colin clearly stated before selling the item that it was not an original sign but simply a fantasy piece.Whoever bought this at his auction I'm sure is the one to point fingers at.


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Re: My Next Sign Restoration [Re: junior25] #352427
Fri Aug 31 2012 04:21 AM
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The point is, STOP making this junk and painting old cans with new graphics. A REAL collector would be collecting artifacts NOT making stuff up that eventually helps ruin the hobby. Why was that decal not dated? Many here are just as bad as the jokers from India/Argentina.


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Re: My Next Sign Restoration [Re: gulfiend!] #352428
Fri Aug 31 2012 04:26 AM
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Same old story. Original creator puts it through an auction,says its a fantasy piece or with no description or described as age unknown to clear their conscience. The next owner adds his 2 cents and the third or fourth owner gets screwed big time. I contacted the buyer-through feedback- and told him its fake with a link to this thread. He'll probably put it through another auction and the cycle will continue. Nice job Colin. Beutiful piece---NOT!

Re: My Next Sign Restoration [Re: JimT] #352433
Fri Aug 31 2012 04:43 AM
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So this piece wasn't made for an individual's own collection but was made to sell in an auction with other Red Indian items less than a month later? This really sucks for the buyer who just paid $1026 + $150 shipping for it, thinking it was a legit piece.

Re: My Next Sign Restoration [Re: JimT] #352436
Fri Aug 31 2012 04:53 AM
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I agree,but recently i built close to original hanging brackets for my original Ford oval signs so I could display them.I have no intentions of selling them but when i'm on my death bed should i tell my wife to discard these brackets prior to her auction?


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Re: My Next Sign Restoration [Re: junior25] #352443
Fri Aug 31 2012 05:36 AM
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This isn't the first fake light up to bring GOOD money on eBay latley... There has been a rash of plastic and reverse painted signs sell on eBay in the last few months... Is not hard to find an older, undesirable light up and put a new face in it and pass it off as original... It all goes back to knowing what your buying... The buyer of that red Indian sign should have known that the vintage of the ligh up didn't match the vintage of the Red Indian image....

Re: My Next Sign Restoration [Re: junior25] #352444
Fri Aug 31 2012 05:38 AM
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...wouldn't hurt to scribe 'REPRO' on the back side of the bracket with your Dremel...


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Re: My Next Sign Restoration [Re: 1970mach] #352457
Fri Aug 31 2012 06:12 AM
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I totally agree that Fantasy pieces should be dated so these type of unfortunate circumstances do not happen; also, I am scratching my head as to why the “creator” sold the piece in the first place…..all excited one minute and then ???? On the other side of this the buyers need to do their research and "think" with their head and not their heart. If you look at the pictures on E-Bay you can clearly see that the outside of the piece is in near mint condition where the inside is aged correct for the time period of when it was first manufactured; you have to think to yourself "hmmm" why is the inside not as nice as the outside? confused


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Re: My Next Sign Restoration [Re: TheRoyalCrown] #352460
Fri Aug 31 2012 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted By: TheRoyalCrown
I also hope GasCan didnt get this one.


No, I saw this in June and was smart enough to see it wasn't real. I think the current owner would be smart to keep it, mark it and lick his wounds, or paint it white and have T-way or someone re-make the original Monarch glass. Love the sign box, hate the fact this got passed off along the line as something it isn't.


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Re: My Next Sign Restoration [Re: 1937 GMC] #352462
Fri Aug 31 2012 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted By: 1937 GMC
also, I am scratching my head as to why the “creator” sold the piece in the first place…..all excited one minute and then ????


...only took a month to get over it...and 'remaking' the original Monarch glass won't really help either, unless it's well-marked...the only value is in the can...

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