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#262620 - Tue Jul 12 2011 09:34 AM Re: Unmarked Repro Hwy Signs - eBay 'agentsteel53' [Re: Bud Miley]
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Loc: San Diego, CA
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You yourself said that you and lacie51 use the same sign company to make your Porcelin-Coat signs which are not really porcelain in the thread


well then I have no idea - we do share the properties of being 14 gauge and having no shelving, but I definitely did not leave a mark when I poked one of my signs last night.

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Look at your promises from 2009 you made here.


you're turning this back into an ex post facto inquisition, which we've moved past several pages ago in this thread.


Edited by agentsteel53 (Tue Jul 12 2011 09:40 AM)
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#262641 - Tue Jul 12 2011 12:44 PM Re: Unmarked Repro Hwy Signs - eBay 'agentsteel53' [Re: agentsteel53]
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"ex post facto inquisition" Can you make me a repop road sign out of this? Please do not mark it, I do not want the value to reduced by any such markings.

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#262713 - Tue Jul 12 2011 10:51 PM Re: Unmarked Repro Hwy Signs - eBay 'agentsteel53' [Re: Rick Brown]
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Originally Posted By: Rick Brown
"ex post facto inquisition" Can you make me a repop road sign out of this? Please do not mark it, I do not want the value to reduced by any such markings.


really, you want a sign that says "ex post facto inquisition"?

what shape and layout would you like it? it will be expensive, since it is customized to such a limited market.

I call your bluff.

quit trolling. you are adding nothing to the discussion.


Edited by agentsteel53 (Tue Jul 12 2011 11:22 PM)
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#262714 - Tue Jul 12 2011 10:52 PM Re: Unmarked Repro Hwy Signs - eBay 'agentsteel53' [Re: Rick Brown]
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#262726 - Wed Jul 13 2011 06:18 AM Re: Unmarked Repro Hwy Signs - eBay 'agentsteel53' [Re: grabber]
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It's not beating a dead horse, It's calling out a MAJOR problem in this hobby and someone that just doesn't get it that he is a major player in the Problem.
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#262739 - Wed Jul 13 2011 09:07 AM Re: Unmarked Repro Hwy Signs - eBay 'agentsteel53' [Re: Rick Brown]
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Loc: Little Rock, AR USA
OK Iíll troll and add to the discussion then. You have 12 fake highway signs listed on Ebay now. Made exactly to the T, all unmarked as being a copy or replica. 11 signs described as porcelain when thy are not, and one Route66 for any state and number you pick. You have been selling these since Apr 2007 on Ebay but still donít have a die or anyway to mark them? What good is this for the hobby?


Edited by Rick Brown (Wed Jul 13 2011 09:08 AM)
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#262747 - Wed Jul 13 2011 11:38 AM Re: Unmarked Repro Hwy Signs - eBay 'agentsteel53' [Re: Rick Brown]
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Exact copies/replica/Unmarked Repo Signs/Items ARE the problem, they are NOT adding to the hobby of collecting. Just padding your pockets & Your trying to justify it!
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#262833 - Wed Jul 13 2011 11:36 PM Re: Unmarked Repro Hwy Signs - eBay 'agentsteel53' [Re: Dick Bennett]
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Dick B: of course I am justifying it! they are my product, and I would like to sell them. Keep myself in business and all that. American way, yade yada.

if you really want to know the differences that make them less than *exact* copies, I am happy to share (please see two pages ago with regard to embossed route markers; I will happily put up a similar discourse for porcelains - "no shelving" covers it accurately enough but I should stress that the dimensions of my replica signs are well off as well) but really, most people who are my customers are happy to know that they are "close enough" for display purposes.

I am adding to the hobby of collecting, whether you (and anyone else on this board!) like it or not. there are price points: some will buy the original for over 10000, and some will buy mine for 99.

to each, their own. to each, their choice.


Edited by agentsteel53 (Wed Jul 13 2011 11:49 PM)
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any questions about road signs - authenticity, value, etc - ask away!

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#262834 - Wed Jul 13 2011 11:43 PM Re: Unmarked Repro Hwy Signs - eBay 'agentsteel53' [Re: Rick Brown]
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Registered: Mon Mar 23 2009
Loc: San Diego, CA
Originally Posted By: Rick Brown
You have been selling these since Apr 2007 on Ebay but still donít have a die or anyway to mark them? What good is this for the hobby?


as mentioned... I will add the die mark to each and every embossed sign I make. Since late May, when I agreed to manufacture a die and stamp signs as a replica, made in 2011, I have not sold a single embossed sign which does not have this mark. In fact I have not sold a single embossed sign at all - I am holding them here, waiting for the die.

I have done my absolute best to understand the reasonable requests (see: Tara Worsham), so please try to find a way in which to be reasonable with me. If you think I have not done enough - point out the specific ways in which I have failed to do so. Please don't just give me general diatribes filled with moral judgments; it makes sense for neither of us.


Edited by agentsteel53 (Wed Jul 13 2011 11:45 PM)
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jake@aaroads.com

any questions about road signs - authenticity, value, etc - ask away!

the AARoads shield gallery - over 10,000 historic highway marker photos

San Diego, CA - US 80, 101, 395

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#262842 - Thu Jul 14 2011 05:26 AM Re: Unmarked Repro Hwy Signs - eBay 'agentsteel53' [Re: agentsteel53]
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Registered: Wed Nov 21 2007
Loc: Little Rock, AR USA
agentsteel53, It is funny that you only want to quote me on the parts of my comments that you want to address. Allow me to point out the fire that is causing the smoke in this thread:

"You have 12 fake highway signs listed on eBay now. Made exactly to the T, all unmarked as being a copy or replica. 11 signs described as porcelain when thy are not, and one Route66 for any state and number you pick."

This is not some sort of "general diatribes" as you call it, these are statments of FACTS!

Your motive is money, and like Lacy you skirt the issue with misleading claims to promote your product. Just so you can't claim more "general diatribes", I am addressing the fact that you have currently listed 11 of your fake signs on ebay and you make claim that they are porcelain or porcelain like when in fact they are nothing more than some sort of computer generated ink printed sign with a high quality sprayed on clear coat.

Get it?

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