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#266108 - Tue Aug 02 2011 09:53 AM Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: marxmobilgas]
marxmobilgas Offline
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Registered: Thu Jul 10 2003
Loc: DFW Texas USA
Here TWO sold Elephant Kerosene signs from this seller:
260818000053 Esso Elephant Kerosene sold for $115
260823985986 Esso Elephant Kerosene sold for $192

330594343544 Roadfinder Bicycles sign another India seller
250839957520 same Roadfinder sign this seller

These are a real problem when they show up in the US

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#266112 - Tue Aug 02 2011 11:10 AM Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: marxmobilgas]
57tbirdkid Offline
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Registered: Tue May 04 2010
Loc: NY
Yes these are a MAJOR issue!
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#266196 - Tue Aug 02 2011 09:37 PM Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: 57tbirdkid]
Madison Oil Offline
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Registered: Sat Nov 06 2010
Loc: Madison, WI
Please explain how these are real problems and major issues when they show up here in the US?

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#266202 - Tue Aug 02 2011 09:56 PM Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: Madison Oil]
57tbirdkid Offline
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Registered: Tue May 04 2010
Loc: NY
This sign prob will as it sold on ebay for $550. An uneducated buyer may purchase this sign thinking it is the real deal-this is why it is of concern to the hobby.
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#266205 - Tue Aug 02 2011 10:05 PM Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: Madison Oil]
marxmobilgas Offline
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Registered: Thu Jul 10 2003
Loc: DFW Texas USA
Madison,

Take these India signs, add your own "story" of how you found it in a barn, take it to a local auction/fleamarket and boom you pollute the original sign market (and devalue your originals) with unmarked, very original looking fakes.

Others see the market for aged fake signs, join in and bring more fakes. Then it becomes a struggle to convince people of the aunthenicity and VALUE of your genuine originals. Along with duping the unsuspecting public.

Had I not known of this website and the flurry of fake India signs, I might have bought one myself, paid good money, and would be really PO'd to find out mines a fake

Its a problem there too in India for the same reasons.

And as the repros that were bought as repros now get older and age/wear/chip themselves, we run into this problem again.
"Grandpa had this sign in his shop for 20 years" will actually be true but with a new but now 20 yr old sign.

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#266229 - Wed Aug 03 2011 06:39 AM Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: marxmobilgas]
LOWright Offline
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Registered: Fri Feb 19 2010
Loc: Louisville, Kentucky
Your right JimT ! My first thought was that the shelving was not right. Take that and who's selling it and i wouldn't touch it, real or not!
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#266304 - Wed Aug 03 2011 09:02 PM Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: LOWright]
Madison Oil Offline
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Registered: Sat Nov 06 2010
Loc: Madison, WI
My opinion is that many of the signs being talked about in this thread are real, but you make the call for yourself. Opinon are like holes, and we all have no less than one.

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#266537 - Fri Aug 05 2011 10:09 PM Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: Madison Oil]
signgod2112 Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Fri May 14 2010
Loc: Texas
YES, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE IN INDIA REPOPING PORCELAIN SIGNS. DO YOU REALIZE HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE U.S. ARE MAKING PORCELAIN REPOPS?

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#326522 - Thu May 17 2012 06:36 AM Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: signgod2112]
57tbirdkid Offline
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Loc: NY
261026735333
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#326622 - Thu May 17 2012 04:25 PM Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: 57tbirdkid]
Dave's Garage Offline
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Registered: Mon Dec 05 2011
Loc: Abbotsford, British Columbia, ...
I wouldn't buy a sign from India, because 100% of the ones I have seen are fake. That is the only reason I don't own a Esso Elephant Kerosene sign and never will.

They have tainted all Esso Elephant Kerosene signs for me.

To many dishonest e-Bay sellers are importing the fakes and selling them locally as real ones.

Chances of you buying a fake one are greater than you buying a real one! And in my books that's a fact.
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#326702 - Thu May 17 2012 09:44 PM Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: 57tbirdkid]
JimT Offline
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Registered: Fri Dec 06 2002
Loc: Cleveland,Ohio U.S.A.
Garbage

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#327093 - Sun May 20 2012 11:12 AM Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: JimT]
K W FRITH Online   content
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Registered: Sun Oct 21 2007
Loc: Devils Lake, ND---USA
Nice looking sidewalk!
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#327139 - Sun May 20 2012 05:17 PM Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: K W FRITH]
THERMOMAN Offline
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Registered: Tue Aug 15 2006
Loc: smyrna, de USA
The way our hobby is heading every porcelain sign will be an esso elephant or an oval mobil gargoyle. So widely accepted repops that the majority of buyers are not aware or do not care any longer
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#327343 - Mon May 21 2012 10:06 AM Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: THERMOMAN]
Old Iron Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Thu Sep 10 2009
Loc: New Mexico
Good point Thermoman.I've got several pieces in my collection,tin signs,porcelain pump plates and decals,that are seldom seen and a few that no one areund here even knew existed.This is one of the reasons I will never post pics of them.They can't pop them if they don't know what an original looked like!!

You taught me well DB when you said not to post them if I don't want them popped.I listened.

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