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Thats a Gulf logo I have never seen ! lol
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Don, How do you tell if the the air sign is real?
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Couple of way to tell first he has sold over 200 of them in the last 3 years and I'm sure he did not find over 200 of these air signs or 200 of the brass side walk tags or Dairy Queen lamps or Sun drop Pam clock faces and the list goes on & on. And second here is a seller that says he is having the EXACT same sign made at a foundry Air sign
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Looking for better Gulf items: signs, globes, cans and paper - especially porcelain Gulf flanges, and Gulf A-38 & A-62 ad glass...
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The best way to combat these sellers is to do what everyone is doing right now, put the info out there.
Lacie51 and T-Ray have gone around and around here and on Cheese's site, trying to convince collectors that the "knock-off" items they sell don't impact the items in our collections.
Of course that is pure Bull. Every time a collector whether new or experienced gets burned, it hurts us all.
We lose "new blood" because they don't want to get "hurt" again. For a collector who is looking to sell, it puts a possible "cloud" over their items and their reputations.
A ton of people "lurk" on Old Gas. It is unbelievable how many people contacted me because they saw parts of my collection and/or read postings I had made on this site.
People who haven't joined the group or who are thinking about collecting read about vendors, original items vs repop, values on items etc.... Each time a fraud is brought to the attention of the membership, it is brought to the entire web.
There has always been a section of the population who wants to profit by "counterfeiting" original items. Some last and some do not. Before the 'net, info on these sellers was very slow to get to the masses. Now it is instantaneous. Everyone here has helped get the info on these sellers to those who share our love of these items and the hobby.
Everyone should be proud of themselves, IMO.
Looking for Tide Water/ Tide Water-Associated/ Tidewater items
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...that clock just brought $428.72, including shipping...
Looking for better Gulf items: signs, globes, cans and paper - especially porcelain Gulf flanges, and Gulf A-38 & A-62 ad glass...
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Deja-vu?? eBay 260884372572
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What are you to do with a clock with the face paint off of it? Are you saying you should never replace a clock face or just not sell it unless your up front about it.
Remember you are only as good as your help If you don't make any noise no one will hear you!
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You are correct, An advertising clock is collectible because of the face, the back can section does not make it a collectible clock, they are very plentiful. There are Many Many "cans" that have new, reproduction faces installed, THEY ARE NOT ORIGINAL CLOCKS ANYMORE, and the more of them that get out there will continue to ruin the values of the originals that have survived.
"Remember, history that is forgotten is doomed to repeat itself!"
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I collected backlit clocks in the mid 90's. And will occasionally buy one still. I had/have about 40 or so. Some pretty good ones too. I remember the sinking feeling I got the first time I realized I was looking at a reproduction face on an old case.This was before they were everywhere you looked. A dealer I knew at Indy Ad refused to agree with me that the Dr. Pepper clock he was selling for 400.00 wasnt right. Since then the value of my collection went into a nose dive. Really took the "feel" out of them in general too, when you see tons of them all over the place-like a dime a dozen. So Yes, put me on the side that says it totally sucks to put a new face on an old case.
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Check out http://www.waynesneonclocks.com/ he has the pam faces and any other part for them.
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With the way reproduction is going and all of these people who don't know the difference, the market for signs will collapse. Sell!! Sell!! Sell!! I can hear Jim Kramer now on mad money pressing the buttons left and right.
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