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Is it worth the farm.. #283569
Sun Nov 06 2011 07:53 PM
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ebay # 220887360269

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Re: Is it worth the farm.. [Re: advertologist] #283574
Sun Nov 06 2011 08:10 PM
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WOW! $3025 and time left!


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Re: Is it worth the farm.. [Re: K W FRITH] #283578
Sun Nov 06 2011 08:20 PM
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I was talking to another member who collects strictly Texaco about these signs. I just can't see them command this kind of price. It is a rare sign but both of us could not see the where the value is. jm2c


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Re: Is it worth the farm.. [Re: 57tbirdkid] #283586
Sun Nov 06 2011 08:40 PM
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WOW, I thought these were worth about $500, but I guess some people will pay whatever it takes!

Re: Is it worth the farm.. [Re: JamesD] #283588
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But then again it's eBay and who knows if those are "real" prices.


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Re: Is it worth the farm.. [Re: 57tbirdkid] #283595
Sun Nov 06 2011 08:51 PM
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James: I will take all you can get for $500 a piece. LOL This is one of the "holy grails" for us Texaco collectors. That is one of the nicer ones I have seen. Don't think I would go that high, but every bit of $2000+. In my opinion.


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Re: Is it worth the farm.. [Re: Alex] #283610
Sun Nov 06 2011 09:18 PM
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I have seen at least 5 of these sell for $2800 to $3200 within the last 5 years. The condition on this one is very nice.


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Re: Is it worth the farm.. [Re: wfort39663] #283611
Sun Nov 06 2011 09:29 PM
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Years ago a friend was selling one, wanted $750, I offered $500. He said IF DB wanted it it must be worth More. He sold his on ebay for $1750 then rubbed it in my face!

Won't be long before you'll be able to get one from Argentina or India!

Re: Is it worth the farm.. [Re: Dick Bennett] #283663
Mon Nov 07 2011 08:49 AM
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"Won't be long before you'll be able to get one from Argentina or India!"
Dick is absolutely corrrect about that. Crying shame.

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Re: Is it worth the farm.. [Re: wfort39663] #283830
Tue Nov 08 2011 05:00 AM
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I too sold one of these in the same condition about 3-4 yrs ago, if I remember it brought in the $3000 - $3500 range,,they are a nice sign, anyone who doesn't think they command this kinda money don't appreciate great signs,,JMO


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Re: Is it worth the farm.. [Re: Wes Hague] #283892
Tue Nov 08 2011 11:28 AM
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This is a great sign, but like others I have a hard time seeing the value of a pump plate with no special graphics or art work being worth over $3,000.

I collect exclusively Texaco, but someone will have to explain to me why this pump plate in general demands a price so high. I understand it's rare (and so is a 8x12 Diesel Chief sign) and it is a different color, but the design is the same as the three other diesel signs Texaco used(Diesel Chief, Diesel Chief L, and Diesel Chief 2, and I'm not counting the reverse Diesel Chief red sign).

What makes it a "great sign" worth so much?

Jamie


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Re: Is it worth the farm.. [Re: J.E.Radebaugh] #283893
Tue Nov 08 2011 11:45 AM
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I hate to state the obvious....but the fact that more than 1 or 2 people are willing to pay that price makes it worth that. I read people saying I think this piece is worth only so much...well, to me, that really means, those people would only pay that....and not more...things don't sell more than once or twice for more than the market value....that's where that term comes from? Especially on ebay, lots of people here talk about shill bidding...and insinuate that some things on ebay don't sell for "real prices"...maybe I'm missing something...but what good is it for a seller to have his item sell for a high price, if he doesn't get it? I understand the concept of shilling an item up, but if it ends with a fake bid...that sounds pretty dumb, unless there is something I'm just not getting?

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Re: Is it worth the farm.. [Re: ebaygenious] #283902
Tue Nov 08 2011 01:10 PM
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Ebaygenious: I am not implying these people are shill bidding, but one example can be that a shill auction will run the price up and then, when the auction is over make an offer to the second or third place bidder who had high bids to see if they want one. The "reason" they give sometimes is the buyer backed out or they have a second one. That would be a little harder on this auction (to have the second one that is) because the picture shows in great detail the item.

Now, having said that, if someone does offer you an item becuase they have more, doesn't mean they are a shill bidder. I have done this with Texaco items, oil cans, etc where I have duplicates of an item. But, the risk of shill bidding on ebay is very, very real. Again, I am not implying that this particular auction is guilty of anything.

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Re: Is it worth the farm.. [Re: Alex] #283913
Tue Nov 08 2011 02:28 PM
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Shilling is used to manipulate market values. Notice after a run of the mill item sells for a high price others show up right after at a slightly discouted price compared to the high price one and people think they are getting a deal. Its like walmart...You think if you buy an item there its the lowest price around....Most of the time it's not...It's all about perception.


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Re: Is it worth the farm.. [Re: 57tbirdkid] #283918
Tue Nov 08 2011 02:41 PM
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Ebay has put so many automatic red flags in place, shill bidding is not nearly as common as what people on this site believe. I'm not saying it doesn't happen...but not near as much as what most people on this site think. And, something would have to be a very rare item to use one auction to manipulate an entire market of them...and if something is that rare...how can there be a big market of them to manipulate? I don't get that theory at all? Guess I"m missing something? If a run of mill item sells huge, it is human nature for people who also have one to want to sell it and get a big price for theirs...it's also human nature for people not to bid as much as they did on the first one, because they are seeing more of them than they might have thought were for sale....pull out 1 of something at a swap meet and I bet you get more for it, than if you pulled 3 or 6 of them out at the same time.

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