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#271472 - Thu Sep 01 2011 09:52 AM Re: eBay seller 'emac1507' - More Fake Gulf clocks!! [Re: THERMOMAN]
always lookin Offline
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Registered: Mon Jan 31 2011
Loc: Pa.
Thats a Gulf logo I have never seen ! lol

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#271488 - Thu Sep 01 2011 11:59 AM Re: eBay seller 'emac1507' - More Fake Gulf clocks!! [Re: THERMOMAN]
Miken Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Fri Jan 14 2011
Loc: Destin, Fl
Don,
How do you tell if the the air sign is real?

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#271501 - Thu Sep 01 2011 02:33 PM Re: eBay seller 'emac1507' - More Fake Gulf clocks!! [Re: Miken]
Don Beaver Offline
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Registered: Thu Dec 20 2001
Loc: Sedro Woolley Washington
Couple of way to tell first he has sold over 200 of them in the last 3 years and I'm sure he did not find over 200 of these air signs or 200 of the brass side walk tags or Dairy Queen lamps or Sun drop Pam clock faces and the list goes on & on. And second here is a seller that says he is having the EXACT same sign made at a foundry Air sign
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#275382 - Thu Sep 22 2011 07:44 AM Re: eBay seller 'emac1507' - More Fake Gulf clocks!! [Re: Don Beaver]
gulfiend! Offline
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Registered: Fri Jul 01 2005
Loc: Raleigh, North Carolina
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Looking for better Gulf items: signs, globes, cans and paper - especially porcelain Gulf flanges, and Gulf A-38 & A-62 ad glass...

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#275499 - Thu Sep 22 2011 03:55 PM Re: eBay seller 'emac1507' - More Fake Gulf clocks!! [Re: gulfiend!]
Bob Richards Offline
Veteran Member

Registered: Tue Feb 22 2005
Loc: Longview, WA
The best way to combat these sellers is to do what everyone is doing right now, put the info out there.

Lacie51 and T-Ray have gone around and around here and on Cheese's site, trying to convince collectors that the "knock-off" items they sell don't impact the items in our collections.

Of course that is pure Bull. Every time a collector whether new or experienced gets burned, it hurts us all.

We lose "new blood" because they don't want to get "hurt" again. For a collector who is looking to sell, it puts a possible "cloud" over their items and their reputations.

A ton of people "lurk" on Old Gas. It is unbelievable how many people contacted me because they saw parts of my collection and/or read postings I had made on this site.

People who haven't joined the group or who are thinking about collecting read about vendors, original items vs repop, values on items etc.... Each time a fraud is brought to the attention of the membership, it is brought to the entire web.

There has always been a section of the population who wants to profit by "counterfeiting" original items. Some last and some do not. Before the 'net, info on these sellers was very slow to get to the masses. Now it is instantaneous. Everyone here has helped get the info on these sellers to those who share our love of these items and the hobby.

Everyone should be proud of themselves, IMO.
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#276255 - Mon Sep 26 2011 04:17 PM Re: eBay seller 'emac1507' - More Fake Gulf clocks!! [Re: Bob Richards]
marxmobilgas Offline
Veteran Member

Registered: Thu Jul 10 2003
Loc: DFW Texas USA
more bs, different day, two month went by
same face, different clock body, glad we kept the link on the 1st one

http://www.ebay.com/itm/60s-GULF-GULFPRI...=item3a6aa48bfd

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#276792 - Thu Sep 29 2011 07:54 AM Re: eBay seller 'emac1507' - More Fake Gulf clocks!! [Re: marxmobilgas]
gulfiend! Offline
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Registered: Fri Jul 01 2005
Loc: Raleigh, North Carolina
...that clock just brought $428.72, including shipping...
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Looking for better Gulf items: signs, globes, cans and paper - especially porcelain Gulf flanges, and Gulf A-38 & A-62 ad glass...

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#282902 - Thu Nov 03 2011 04:10 PM Re: eBay seller 'emac1507' - More Fake Gulf clocks!! [Re: gulfiend!]
coopersplace Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Thu Nov 19 2009
Loc: Alberta, Canada
Deja-vu?? eBay 260884372572

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#282943 - Thu Nov 03 2011 07:25 PM Re: eBay seller 'emac1507' - More Fake Gulf clocks!! [Re: coopersplace]
coheley5 Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Thu Jun 11 2009
Loc: Georgia
What are you to do with a clock with the face paint off of it? Are you saying you should never replace a clock face or just not sell it unless your up front about it.
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#282951 - Thu Nov 03 2011 07:47 PM Re: eBay seller 'emac1507' - More Fake Gulf clocks!! [Re: coheley5]
KZ1000 Offline
Veteran Member

Registered: Sun Oct 21 2007
Loc: Mass
You are correct, An advertising clock is collectible because of the face, the back can section does not make it a collectible clock, they are very plentiful. There are Many Many "cans" that have new, reproduction faces installed, THEY ARE NOT ORIGINAL CLOCKS ANYMORE, and the more of them that get out there will continue to ruin the values of the originals that have survived.
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#282958 - Thu Nov 03 2011 08:19 PM Re: eBay seller 'emac1507' - More Fake Gulf clocks!! [Re: KZ1000]
JimT Online   content
Veteran Member

Registered: Fri Dec 06 2002
Loc: Cleveland,Ohio U.S.A.
I collected backlit clocks in the mid 90's. And will occasionally buy one still. I had/have about 40 or so. Some pretty good ones too. I remember the sinking feeling I got the first time I realized I was looking at a reproduction face on an old case.This was before they were everywhere you looked. A dealer I knew at Indy Ad refused to agree with me that the Dr. Pepper clock he was selling for 400.00 wasnt right. Since then the value of my collection went into a nose dive. Really took the "feel" out of them in general too, when you see tons of them all over the place-like a dime a dozen. So Yes, put me on the side that says it totally sucks to put a new face on an old case.

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#283026 - Fri Nov 04 2011 08:45 AM Re: eBay seller 'emac1507' - More Fake Gulf clocks!! [Re: JimT]
Bud Miley Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Sun Jan 02 2011
Loc: Greenup, IL
Check out http://www.waynesneonclocks.com/ he has the pam faces and any other part for them.

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#287673 - Tue Nov 29 2011 01:08 AM Re: eBay seller 'emac1507' - More Fake Gulf clocks!! [Re: Bud Miley]
TheRoyalCrown Offline
Petro Enthusiast

Registered: Fri Jul 08 2011
Loc: LA, usa
With the way reproduction is going and all of these people who don't know the difference, the market for signs will collapse. Sell!! Sell!! Sell!! I can hear Jim Kramer now on mad money pressing the buttons left and right.

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