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Dick Bennett #293789 Thu Dec 29 2011 08:46 PM
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[quote=Dick Bennett]BUT, now you are combining the 2 companies, GLM & FRY!

GLC AND FRY same company- name change was in honor of H.C. FRY long time Pres. throw some decals on it you have a fry.

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Got one more for you guys , thanks in advance.
What is the difference between the 77 and 117 . 77 produced 1920 and the 117 produced 1924. I see the gate handle in jacks book. Postive stops on 117 ? Wonder if this pump gets missed IDed as a 117. I have never heard much talk on this model.

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IMO:
I think that the 177 does not have the "fingers" or the regulator handle. It was strictly eye measure.I have found a couple that were missing these parts, but they were also missing the ID tags.I just picked up a 117 that was locked in at 10 gallons. Someone ran the overflow tube all the way up and then sawed or broke off the regulator handle, closed the door and bent the lock tab back so that it(the door)could not be opened.Perhaps the positive stop adjustment was a nuisance...thus giving birth to the 177 if I am correct. I have found many 117s in similar conditions.
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Bet it was due to Leakage around the adjustment pipe. Would have been a constant headache to keep changing the packing as it wore out.

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Sounds good. That would have been a royal pain to do...especially over and over again.
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I have a 17 ran all the way up with handle broke off. This might not be by accident,huh. Thanks to all for posting. Without the fingers the 77 wouldn't be mistaken for a 117 as I figured. Dave you have been big help. 37 Buick ,I remember the one you did in shell, hope you score that base so we can see the next one.

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AS few comments having to do with some of the above:

Loyd, you probably don't have a copy of the Blue Book. The reason the Blue Book was ever printed was that the US Government needed steel in 1942, so the Office of War had the Blue Book printed. They went to existing pumps companies and requested dates and model number for pumps that were at least 10 years old. They then asked that these old pumps be turned in for scrap.
Since GLM had gone out of business, they aren't even mentioned in the BB.

DB, the GLM Company didn't change its name to Fry until around 1928.

A couple of years ago I got on a kick to acquire as much information as I could about these pumps. Part of what inspired me was that Mr. Cole wrote two articles for CTO about GLM and Fry. I followed up with two more, my articles were basically to determine who invented the visible pump and who was the first to make one. While I still believe that Fleckenstein may have been the first, I cannot find evidence to back it up, so as it stands today, GLM was the first visible.

I am going to go to publishers of CTO magazine and request permission to put all four of the articles that I and Mr. Cole have written, on my website. I think you all would like to read them, especially at one time. One requirement will be, you subscribe to the CTO Magazine. I know this will be voluntary, but we need to support the great effort Jerry and Kathlean Keiser are doing.

I have probably written more about this pump than any other pump out there, and the crazy thing is I have owned over 200 pumps, but not one Fry. This pump is a must for any collection, just so you can say to your friends "That pump was the first visible pump ever made."

Jack Sim

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That would be GREAT, a help to all of us, and would keep you from answering a lot of questions(the same ones)...over and over and over again! LOL Dave


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Jack I agree that would be great. I have subscribed to the petroleum collectibles monthly,is this the mag you are speaken about ,or is there another I'm missing out on ? I know more questions.

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Bob Richards hooked me up with cto link. Question answered.
Thanks Bob.


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Just got my subscription for CTO for Christmas (first issue showed up today!). Jack, I look forward to seeing your articles on your website, thanks in advance.

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Loyd:
I did mine in Pennzoil and am still waiting for a base to show up. I did get a set of locator fingers and have them set up and calibrated. I know that that packing was a terror to get out. I had to machine a new upper packing gland and nut for mine, since the friend who gave me the pump cut the meter tube off to solder a square electrical box. That was so he could wire a light socket on it.
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