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#302954 - Mon Feb 06 2012 11:25 AM Gulf Supreme Auto Oil flange
gulfiend! Offline
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Loc: Raleigh, North Carolina
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gulf-Porcelain-H...e-/180813387704

...from '2curios'...the porcelain looks thick, lots of shelving...but the lettering below 'OIL' looks VERY suspect to me...and the white outer border is wider than on any Gulf flange sign in this style, that I've seen...I just don't think it's 'right'...

...top photo is the sign in question, from '2curios' auction - the other one from an old Proxibid listing (which is definitely an old one)...note the differences...what do y'all think?


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Edited by gulfiend! (Mon Feb 06 2012 11:26 AM)
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#302957 - Mon Feb 06 2012 11:37 AM Re: Gulf Supreme Auto Oil flange [Re: gulfiend!]
gmstuff Offline
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Registered: Mon Jan 22 2007
Loc: Elkridge, MD, US
Looks fake to me!

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#302958 - Mon Feb 06 2012 11:48 AM Re: Gulf Supreme Auto Oil flange [Re: gmstuff]
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Registered: Fri Sep 07 2007
Loc: So. Ca.
no doubt about it..
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#302959 - Mon Feb 06 2012 11:49 AM Re: Gulf Supreme Auto Oil flange [Re: gmstuff]
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Loc: Abbotsford, British Columbia, ...
Don`t know enough about this sign in particular to make a definitive statement. I agree that it is questionable. I noted that the font or letting is different for "SUPREME" especially the "R" and "M".
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#303662 - Thu Feb 09 2012 07:22 PM Re: Gulf Supreme Auto Oil flange [Re: Dave's Garage]
5 quart Offline
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Registered: Sun Jul 06 2003
Loc: Stockton NJ USA
Hi Mark- I almost bid on that sign- but just didnt look right- was also a rather low price for orig that good-lease they could do is throw a couple rocks at it to give it a little age-- thanks don
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#303849 - Fri Feb 10 2012 04:24 PM Re: Gulf Supreme Auto Oil flange [Re: 5 quart]
Badmotorfinger Offline
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Registered: Mon Sep 26 2011
Loc: Mass
Ok, you guys have me concerned. I purchased a similar sign from this seller last month and although it looks good to my new collector eye I wanted to run it by the more experienced after the above sign was called into question. Let me know if anyone sees any red flags with this sign. Thanks.








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#303852 - Fri Feb 10 2012 04:49 PM Re: Gulf Supreme Auto Oil flange [Re: Badmotorfinger]
Tankar Online   content
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Registered: Thu Oct 30 2008
Loc: MN United States
LOOKS GOOD TO ME!. I have one myself and have always liked that sign.

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#303878 - Fri Feb 10 2012 07:43 PM Re: Gulf Supreme Auto Oil flange [Re: Tankar]
cosdencop Offline
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Registered: Tue Aug 16 2011
Loc: texas
This last one looks good to me also !! I have one just like it i bought off old gas.

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#303949 - Sat Feb 11 2012 07:58 AM Re: Gulf Supreme Auto Oil flange [Re: cosdencop]
gulfiend! Offline
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Loc: Raleigh, North Carolina
Badmotorfinger, your sign is an original...
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#304190 - Sun Feb 12 2012 12:07 AM Re: Gulf Supreme Auto Oil flange [Re: gulfiend!]
gulfoilngas Offline
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Registered: Thu Aug 25 2011
Loc: Ohio Valley
I also want to add that I have bought from this seller and have not had a problem, maybe he did not know what he has. Has anyone asked him? They move allot of signs and are always buying and selling from what I can tell and I agree that this sign looks different than what they usually do and if they are not original then I would bet he would want to know. I too almost bought that sign but for some reason I didn't. .

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#304270 - Sun Feb 12 2012 12:22 PM Re: Gulf Supreme Auto Oil flange [Re: gulfoilngas]
signgod2112 Offline
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Registered: Fri May 14 2010
Loc: Texas
Gulfoilngas,
Just for the record 2Curious are two sisters that have an antique store. U keep referring to them as He.

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#304281 - Sun Feb 12 2012 01:30 PM Re: Gulf Supreme Auto Oil flange [Re: signgod2112]
gulfoilngas Offline
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Registered: Thu Aug 25 2011
Loc: Ohio Valley
I did not know they were sisters, but I do agree there are two lady's and I usually deal with Elizabeth (I think the other name is Jordan) and no matter what sign I am buying she goes by what her "boss" says, his name is George. She said he is the one that does the buying and puts the prices on the signs. That is the "he" I was referring to. I cannot personally verify though as I have never been there in person, that is just what she told me. Either way I guess the real issue is about the signs, I did not buy it but would be curious to hear from the person that did if they happen to see this forum.

Here is my question (or just thoughts) since I don't like getting ripped off any more than the next guy, sometimes there are differences in these old signs especially if the manufacturer changed, do we think that is a possibility? Along those lines has anyone ever seen a reproduction that looked like this before, if it were a repro wouldn't there be allot of these on the market? Someone would have went to an awful lot of work for not allot of money.

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#306444 - Tue Feb 21 2012 10:02 AM Re: Gulf Supreme Auto Oil flange [Re: gulfiend!]
Steve in New Mex Offline
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Registered: Thu Dec 15 2011
Loc: SW US
I also have done business in the past with 2curios and have been well satisfied. They do offer some high-end repros, but are careful to identify them. You will note that the posting for this particular Gulf Supreme sign stated NOT REPRODUCTION in all caps.

Here's what they had to say when I inquired:

<<George has returned and we looked over the "discussion board" link you sent us. The best that I can tell you, is that we bought the sign as old and original from a collector. We describe items as to the best of our knowledge, and we do also strive to keep our customers happy. We do not claim to be experts, we just like this stuff! There is no real way for us to know. I just don't know how one "verifies" the authenticity or non-authenticity of an item. I know that may not be much of an answer, but as with all dealers, just can't always know... to post this at the discussion boards.>>

I'd also have to agree with the posting that notes that different companies made variations on basic designs over a period of time. This is particularly maddening for the Ford collectors out there as FMC used the same designs over and over for many years, e.g., Genuine Ford parts ovals. I can think of 5 variations off hand and all are regularly traded and accepted as originals.

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#306521 - Tue Feb 21 2012 04:15 PM Re: Gulf Supreme Auto Oil flange [Re: gulfoilngas]
MetroPetro Offline
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Registered: Fri Mar 25 2005
Loc: North Jersey
First sign pictured in this post is a fake repro. 2nd and 3rd signs are legit.

It does not matter what "George", the guy who sold it to him, the guy who made it, the guy who buys it, the next guy that gets burned , etc. says- nothing will change the fact that the first sign pictured in this post is a phony.

First sign pictured in this post is a fake repro.

It does not matter if someone sells original signs sometimes- the first sign pictured in this post is not original.

Repeat- First sign pictured in this post is a fake repro.
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#306527 - Tue Feb 21 2012 04:29 PM Re: Gulf Supreme Auto Oil flange [Re: MetroPetro]
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Registered: Tue May 04 2010
Loc: NY
Stories and more stories the proof is in the pudding.....just like the 5th version of the ford sign from India!


Edited by 57tbirdkid (Tue Feb 21 2012 04:32 PM)
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