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#319133 - Sun Apr 15 2012 07:43 PM Re: Black Havoline Sign [Re: tomzcollectiblez]
Nicole Petro Enthusiast Registered: Thu Dec 09 2010 Loc: Maryland	If the partial blue Havoline sign at the top of your photo is the same vintage, then I think you are safe to call the other sign black. IMHO
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#319161 - Sun Apr 15 2012 08:52 PM Re: Black Havoline Sign [Re: tomzcollectiblez]
Alex Moderator, Value Forum Registered: Mon Dec 08 2003 Loc: Butte, Montana USA	Originally Posted By: tomzcollectiblez Why would the blue fade all the way to black evenly??? Ive seen tons of faded signs and there is fluctuation in the fading! I dont see that here! Also why is the red crisp and NOT faded??? Usually the red is first to fade out... I have never seen this sign before either BUT Im looking at it now! LOL I have seen companies use different colors for different states and perhaps thats the case here?(ie mobil, standard,etc) Just my 2 cents Later! PS: Killer sign JIM!!! Sorry if I ticked you off, Tom. I was reading your 2nd through 4th sentences. Sorry if I interpreted them wrong. I also realize that paint is different than porcelain. I was just using that as an example of fading paint. I am out of the discussion. _________________________ Alex
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#319173 - Sun Apr 15 2012 09:12 PM Re: Black Havoline Sign [Re: Alex]
tomzcollectiblez Veteran Member Registered: Sun Feb 26 2006 Loc: La Porte, In	No problem Alex! Im not ticked off...I was just clarifying... I also remember the faded hoods from the 80's as I was painting cars in a motorpool at that time. I think it was a primer issue?
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#319177 - Sun Apr 15 2012 09:17 PM Re: Black Havoline Sign [Re: tomzcollectiblez]
57tbirdkid TBA Feature Host Registered: Tue May 04 2010 Loc: NY	I believe it was a clear coat issue _________________________ The most valuable commodity I know of is information-Wall Street
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#319200 - Sun Apr 15 2012 10:15 PM Re: Black Havoline Sign [Re: 57tbirdkid]
Alex Moderator, Value Forum Registered: Mon Dec 08 2003 Loc: Butte, Montana USA	No problem, Tom. I wish I could remember the details of the Ford suit. I do remember taking my truck to a Ford dealer amd they were shocked when the area rep looked at it and said they would pay to repaint the whole truck and not just replace the hood, etc. Anyway, wish we could get some more close ups of the Havoline sign. _________________________ Alex
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#319207 - Sun Apr 15 2012 10:37 PM Re: Black Havoline Sign [Re: Alex]
JimT Veteran Member Registered: Fri Dec 06 2002 Loc: Cleveland,Ohio U.S.A.	Its not with me here. I'll see what I can do in the next few days.If I get over there I'll put some Sani-wax on it and take a few more pics. Also I believe there is a sign makers stamp on it..I'll find out. Edited by JimT (Mon Apr 16 2012 04:53 AM) _________________________ GO TRIBE!
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#319211 - Mon Apr 16 2012 01:12 AM Re: Black Havoline Sign [Re: JimT]
DCpate Veteran Member Registered: Wed Nov 08 2000 Loc: Norman, OK	sign is black I agree with Tom,,,the sign makers could have been putzing around when they made it, who knows? _________________________ There's no stopping the Cretins from hopping You've got to keep it beating for the hopping Cretins
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#319215 - Mon Apr 16 2012 04:42 AM Re: Black Havoline Sign [Re: DCpate]
JimT Veteran Member Registered: Fri Dec 06 2002 Loc: Cleveland,Ohio U.S.A.	I've had lots of porcelain signs since I've gotten involved in collecting and really in my opinion the blue usually gets lighter from the wear of acid rain,unless the sign has a film of grime on it from pollution up here in the industrial areas. I'm trying to think of other signs I've seen that were primarily black and cant come up with even one off the top of my head. I wonder why? I think it looks good. _________________________ GO TRIBE!
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#319216 - Mon Apr 16 2012 04:48 AM Re: Black Havoline Sign [Re: 57tbirdkid]
JimT Veteran Member Registered: Fri Dec 06 2002 Loc: Cleveland,Ohio U.S.A.	Originally Posted By: 57tbirdkid Jim The sign is not black just a faded dark blue. Here is my vertical. Kieth- My kindergarten teacher, Mrs. Palagi would be proud of me for being able to tell the difference between black and cobalt blue. lol I'm trying not to be a smart aleck but I've always subscribe to the "I believe what I see" mentality, and weather it was once blue and has since turned black I dont know, but right now it's definitely black. Edited by JimT (Mon Apr 16 2012 05:09 AM) _________________________ GO TRIBE!
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#319267 - Mon Apr 16 2012 11:14 AM Re: Black Havoline Sign [Re: Nicole]
Loyd Pierce Veteran Member Registered: Thu Jan 13 2011 Loc: Mt. Juliet, Tenn.	Originally Posted By: Nicole If the partial blue Havoline sign at the top of your photo is the same vintage, then I think you are safe to call the other sign black. IMHO I'll second that. Black _________________________ Wanted Pierce Pennant Petroleum
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#319338 - Mon Apr 16 2012 05:15 PM Re: Black Havoline Sign [Re: Loyd Pierce]
oilmanpat Petro Enthusiast Registered: Sat Nov 18 2006 Loc: Warsaw,Il.62379	Looks black to me!
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