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I am looking for additional information on the filling station in this photo. It is a Butler Built Gas Station. I would really like to get additional photos, brochures, newspaper ads, postcards, etc.....
If you know of the value on this item, please post in the values forums. It looks like a 1920's-30's Standard Oil Pre Fab, Butler Built Gas Station.
Thank you for your help.
Mike
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Mike , when I was living in Down town Ft Worth, ( 80's ) I remember one . I should have shot pictures of the darn thing too. I want to say it was off 7th street . It may still be there if a fellow Old gasser is in the area .......... Ed Shaver
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see ya on the road folks !
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You didn't wind up with that, did you? I was interested but dismantling and transportation would have been cost prohibitive.
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Where off 7th? I'll go look.
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Man i won't a station like that. Wish i could find one in montana.
Always looking for grizzly gasoline stuff, or any Montana gas and oil stuff.
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First, Butler made many things, tankers, gas pumps, complete stations, and building like the one above. This is not a Standard pre-fab building, it a Butler made filling station building, it just appears that Standard was the last one to use it. Second, the Standard sign may be worth more than the building. And what is inside the building? There may be something inside it that may be worth more than the building. Third, as Stu mentionded above, the cost of dismantling and moving may be so much, that maybe they should be paying you just to get it off the property. You could dismantle this building, but you would have to mark every part, take a ton of pictures, just to be able to put it back together. Here is a picture from my website that show a similiar building that was moved without taking it apart: http://petrolianacollectibles.com/steve_gold.htmThis type of building is something that should be donated to the local historical society, put in a historical place, restored, have gas pumps put outside, and be available for everyone to see what a filling station looked like back in the 1920s. The best example of this is the historical park that Dayton, Ohio has. They devoted a park to the history of Dayton. Every day, school buses of children come to the park to see the history. Included in the park are: The original building (they moved it to the park) where the Wright brothers had their bicycle shop and where they conceived their idea for the first airplane. An original building housing at least one Dayton locomotive. An original dealership, with cars, for the Stoddard-Dayton automobile. An original Sunoco (I may be wrong about the brand) building, a much nicer than one shown above, and with two American (made in Dayton) visible gas pumps out front. This is the greatest display of industrial history I have ever seen. The Museum of Transportation, here in St. Louis County, has a porcelain, 1950s style, Phillips 66 station, replaced to their property. The big kicker is that it once stood on Rt. 66 going out of St. Louis. I donated one gas pump for it yeasrs ago and a ton of Phillips 66 items (air, gas & oil filters, etc.) for the inside of the building. I am sure, somewhere in my 41 file drawers of service station literature I have something on this building. I need a commitment to purchase it before I start looking for it. Jack Sim
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You didn't wind up with that, did you? I was interested but dismantling and transportation would have been cost prohibitive. Yup, I'm the winner. I may not think that after moving the building 35 miles or so. We plan to look it over again today to get our strategy in place for moving it. Mike
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First, Butler made many things, tankers, gas pumps, complete stations, and building like the one above. This is not a Standard pre-fab building, it a Butler made filling station building, it just appears that Standard was the last one to use it. Second, the Standard sign may be worth more than the building. And what is inside the building? There may be something inside it that may be worth more than the building. Third, as Stu mentionded above, the cost of dismantling and moving may be so much, that maybe they should be paying you just to get it off the property. You could dismantle this building, but you would have to mark every part, take a ton of pictures, just to be able to put it back together. Here is a picture from my website that show a similiar building that was moved without taking it apart: http://petrolianacollectibles.com/steve_gold.htmThis type of building is something that should be donated to the local historical society, put in a historical place, restored, have gas pumps put outside, and be available for everyone to see what a filling station looked like back in the 1920s. The best example of this is the historical park that Dayton, Ohio has. They devoted a park to the history of Dayton. Every day, school buses of children come to the park to see the history. Included in the park are: The original building (they moved it to the park) where the Wright brothers had their bicycle shop and where they conceived their idea for the first airplane. An original building housing at least one Dayton locomotive. An original dealership, with cars, for the Stoddard-Dayton automobile. An original Sunoco (I may be wrong about the brand) building, a much nicer than one shown above, and with two American (made in Dayton) visible gas pumps out front. This is the greatest display of industrial history I have ever seen. The Museum of Transportation, here in St. Louis County, has a porcelain, 1950s style, Phillips 66 station, replaced to their property. The big kicker is that it once stood on Rt. 66 going out of St. Louis. I donated one gas pump for it yeasrs ago and a ton of Phillips 66 items (air, gas & oil filters, etc.) for the inside of the building. I am sure, somewhere in my 41 file drawers of service station literature I have something on this building. I need a commitment to purchase it before I start looking for it. Jack Sim Plan A is to display the station. If that works out, it will be indoors and available for anyone to view during business hours. We are planning to make a display of the Pepsi advertising items we have and of course filling stations were a big part of the history of soft drinks. Along side the station will be various Pepsi coolers, displays, vendors, advertising items, a few gas & oil items, and a couple of old cars. We would be interested in more literature on the barker stations. Please feel free to PM me with the type of info. and costs. It sounds like I need to run to St. Louis to check out the transportation museum. Thank you for the advice. Mike
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Congratulations! I think it is a rare find. Not too far to move, either.
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That is awesome! And lol about that sign being worth more than the building! I'd give 10 of those signs for that building! Great find!
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I took a look at the building last week and then bought it at auction on Saturday. I never really questioned the size of it. The auction bill listed it as 9'x14'. HA The body is 10'4"x14'4" with a one foot overhang, so we are talking about 12'4"x16'4". It is over 11' tall. We are planning to wrap and skid the whole thing in one piece. With lots of cross bracing and tender loving care. Planning to pull it on a low trailer and pull it home with an escort. We may need permits to get it home.
Thanks for the positive comments. You are welcome to come check it out when we get it displayed.
Mike
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You will need to pull permits to transport it similar to a mobile home. The municipality will stipulate the route to be taken; taking into count height of overpasses and overhead wires. If any wires need to be discounted or raised you will have to pay those costs.
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Permits??? Bah! I moved mine across town Sunday morning in broad daylight, nobody said a word.
Still looking for that Union 76 ball And I collect big old porcelain neon signs
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Dewdude,
Not trying to be smart, but you haven't even told us what state you are in.
Jack Sim
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DD, I don't do Private Messages, but I will try and find some information on the building.
Jack Sim
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Very cool acquisition! I would love to have it. Maybe if you put it on a Low boy trailer it wont be too high. If it wasnt over 13 foot, I would just go for it. You can do it!If it was easy anyone could do it! LOL!
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A little town in NE Missouri. Memphis, MO Dewdude,
Not trying to be smart, but you haven't even told us what state you are in.
Jack Sim
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Very cool acquisition! I would love to have it. Maybe if you put it on a Low boy trailer it wont be too high. If it wasnt over 13 foot, I would just go for it. You can do it!If it was easy anyone could do it! LOL! I'm pretty sure it won't be easy. We are really looking forward to having it on display.
If it was easy, anybody could do it.
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Post pic's of its voyage whenever you do it...
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Post pic's of its voyage whenever you do it... Ha - that is a great idea. Probably wouldn't have thought of it. Key word - VOYAGE
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Post pic's of its voyage whenever you do it... Okay - we survived the Voyage.
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A few more road pictures and one after we unloaded the building with forklifts. We didn't break or bend anything or hit any power lines. The whole trip went without a hitch. The building is on large castors right now, getting ready to move to it's new home. Planning to display autos, gas, oil, and soda stuff around it to make it feel at home.
If it was easy, anybody could do it.
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Wow!!! That is cool!!! Keep us posted when you get it set up to display.
***Wanted*** Always looking for Oilzum, Kunz, and Husky Cans, Signs and Smalls.
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awesome..
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RED NECK Travel Trailer!
IF I remember correctly, Don Sherwood [oltoydoc] hooked a chain on one years ago & dragged [NO TRAILER, NO PERMITS] one home when he lived in Torrance!
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That is a true story about Don. Probably a topic about it here on Oldgas.com from a decade ago. Congrats on getting the station and safely bringing it back to a good home. Maybe someday I'll get to see it in person.
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I FOUND THE STORY! http://oldgas.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=16220&Number=100103#Post100103 I've enjoyed the pump and sign stories, here's one about a whole station. I live in Torrance, Ca. a suburb of Los Angeles. Lot's of people here, and it's hard to find any pumps on the back roads, as there aren't any back roads. About two blocks from my house is a large city park. During WW2 this park was a military supply depot, and some of the old military buildings still stand on one edge of the area, enclosed with a chain link fence. Me being a curious type of guy went snooping around, and found that stuck in the middle of these old buildings, was a Pre-fab gas station from the 1930's. It was painted a gawd awful military color, but it was a one room gas station. It has a really cool front roof line, and lots of glass windows. Well, I had my eye on this old building for several years. Then one day I heard the rumor that the whole complex was to be torn down to make way for a sports complex. I went to the Director of the Parks and Recreation for the City, and offered to remove the building at my own expense thus saving the City some money! (hey, it was worth a try?) Like so many guys that don't have the petro bug, he couldn't understand why I wanted this old rusty, yellow colored building, but said he'd look into it. Sometime later, he told me that the City would sell it to me for $1.00 Well, that was done, and I told him I'd move the building in two weeks. About one week later, he called to let me know that the City Manager had found out about our plan, and had decided that he needed to cancel the deal as the City didn't want to be responsible for any liability if I got hurt moving the building. I convinced the director to lie to the City Mgr. about getting in touch with me, and that since tomorrow was the weekend, it would be moved before next Monday when they all got back to work. Saturday, I unbolted the steel building from the concrete slab, jacked it up and put a 4"x4" "runner" under each side, bolted the building to the wood, and hooked a log chain to the runners. I drug the building the two blocks to my house, down the street and up the alley. When I stopped behind my house, those 4x4's were smoking from the friction. I had to use my torch to cut about two foot off of the back of the building the whole length in order to get it down the 8' wide driveway behind my house. I got it in the back yard, welded it back together and threw a Texaco paint job and a few signs on it. It was made by the Carnige Steel Co. and apparently they sold everything to bolt together your own station. It is about 9'deep and 14' wide. Basically just a building to store small items, and keep the owner/operator dry in between his service. The building has a steel frame that is welded together, and then thick steel panels that would bolt to the frame. It's not the best looking station, but it's cool, it starts many conversations. Just one more "gas station" story! I'll send a photo to Jim to post.
Don "oltoydoc" Sherwood
Don moved to Shady Cove Oregon, but haven't seen Pictures of the Station in his yard there! [He still owns the house in Torrance & I'd bet it's still there]
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Looking for better Gulf items: signs, globes, cans and paper - especially porcelain Gulf flanges, and Gulf A-38 & A-62 ad glass...
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Don Sherwood's station (Torrance)..
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Hey Dew,did Pepsi mind using their truck? This will look kool when you are done. Will be nice to be able to drive by and look. Looks like you were on Hwy.136 in some of the pics.Thats not a real wide road!
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Very nice! I am looking forward to seeing pictures of your completed display.
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A man after my own heart. The best part is the realization that you made it while the adrenalin is still pumping. Congratulations! Very cool addition!
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The whole trip went without a hitch. That's a pretty good trick when you're pulling a trailer !
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Hey Dew,did Pepsi mind using their truck? This will look kool when you are done. Will be nice to be able to drive by and look. Looks like you were on Hwy.136 in some of the pics.Thats not a real wide road! I work at Pepsi and a couple of the guys there did most of the work. We plan to display the station in the old production room of the Pepsi building. We didn't use much of Hwy 136. 136 would have been considered the wide road in our operation. We traveled east out of Queen City on state road E and then D to Hwy 15. We ran about 30-35 mph most of the trip with very few cars in between us and Memphis. Overhead wires were our biggest concern after getting the building on the trailer. The station is awesome. We have a pot bellied stove, a tin ceiling and a ladies bathroom for it. We have plenty of old Pepsi items and a couple of Model A's to display around it. You guys are invited to stop and look anytime. Right now we have a few more pieces of old equipment to get out of the way before we can set the station in place. We are still looking for a few additional items to go with the station to perfect the look of the 20's and 30's.
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Thank You for sharing this. Awesome!
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Really neat! Now I am suspecting that the little glass house down the street that the last owners used as a potting shed had been a gas station. Emphasis on the had been.
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Yeah, I was thinking that that building would look good in a garden, next to a pond, surrounded by blooming azalea as a Japanese tea room! Not that I've ever been in a Japanese garden tea room... That's just a nice looking building all around. Thanks for posting the pic's. Let us see it when it's all fancied up!!!
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Nicole, Bob needs one for his Cati.
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Nicole, Bob needs one for his Cati. Got no more Catz but have sore Dogs after seeing the doc about them today! Mike, I wanted to add, how did you move it without loosing/breaking some of the glass panels? I would imagine there was a lot of flex in the building...
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Start on Another Case or Magnum Bottle & you'll feel better by morning.
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Mike, I wanted to add, how did you move it without loosing/breaking some of the glass panels? I would imagine there was a lot of flex in the building... We ran four 4"x6" across the building with 2x6 from corner to corner inside the building. No flex when we screwed it down to the wooden floor of the heavy trailer we used. The trailer had two 7,000 axles, so weight wasn't an issue. The framework of the trailer is heavy enough that it didn't flex and the suspension took care of the rest. We were lucky. No additional breaks or issues with the windows. There were a few broken panes before we started, but we didn't break any during the move.
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Should be nice when you get finished. We will have to stop and see it.
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Should be nice when you get finished. We will have to stop and see it. Everyone is welcome to check it out, but right now it doesn't look like much. I will post pictures when we get it in place with pumps, signage, and autos.
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If it wouldnt be to big a deal why dont you just drive it down to atlanta ga. I will store it for you. We can put it right next to the world of coke and cover it in pepsi stuff. Coke will be all... What the *****.
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Pretty cool. Im in the Hannibal/Palmyra area. Next time we are through Memphis we'll have to stop and check it out
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Pretty cool. Im in the Hannibal/Palmyra area. Next time we are through Memphis we'll have to stop and check it out Sounds good. You might be underwhelmed right now as the station isn't in place and doesn't have any advertising around it. We need to sell a couple pieces of old equipment. Once they are out of the way, we can place the station with all the antique goodies.
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We rolled the filling station outside today and shot a few photos of my dad's old cars, old outhouse, a few signs, and an old Pepsi cooler.
36 Chevy Master Coupe - 28 Model A Coupe - 29 Ford Model AA Route Truck
The finished product will look much better when we get space inside our main building.
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My wife's orange '10 RS-SS Camaro - My 30 Model A Coupe Hot Rod - and our '69 Chevy Camaro RS-SS 396
If it was easy, anybody could do it.
Looking for nice, old soda signs, light-ups, and clocks. Mostly Pepsi and Mt. Dew.
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Joined: Oct 2006
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Mike
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