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Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: marxmobilgas] #266108
Tue Aug 02 2011 07:53 AM
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Here TWO sold Elephant Kerosene signs from this seller:
260818000053 Esso Elephant Kerosene sold for $115
260823985986 Esso Elephant Kerosene sold for $192

330594343544 Roadfinder Bicycles sign another India seller
250839957520 same Roadfinder sign this seller

These are a real problem when they show up in the US

Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: marxmobilgas] #266112
Tue Aug 02 2011 09:10 AM
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Yes these are a MAJOR issue!


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Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: 57tbirdkid] #266196
Tue Aug 02 2011 07:37 PM
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Please explain how these are real problems and major issues when they show up here in the US?

Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: Madison Oil] #266202
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This sign prob will as it sold on ebay for $550. An uneducated buyer may purchase this sign thinking it is the real deal-this is why it is of concern to the hobby.


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Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: Madison Oil] #266205
Tue Aug 02 2011 08:05 PM
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Take these India signs, add your own "story" of how you found it in a barn, take it to a local auction/fleamarket and boom you pollute the original sign market (and devalue your originals) with unmarked, very original looking fakes.

Others see the market for aged fake signs, join in and bring more fakes. Then it becomes a struggle to convince people of the aunthenicity and VALUE of your genuine originals. Along with duping the unsuspecting public.

Had I not known of this website and the flurry of fake India signs, I might have bought one myself, paid good money, and would be really PO'd to find out mines a fake

Its a problem there too in India for the same reasons.

And as the repros that were bought as repros now get older and age/wear/chip themselves, we run into this problem again.
"Grandpa had this sign in his shop for 20 years" will actually be true but with a new but now 20 yr old sign.

Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: marxmobilgas] #266229
Wed Aug 03 2011 04:39 AM
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Your right JimT ! My first thought was that the shelving was not right. Take that and who's selling it and i wouldn't touch it, real or not!


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Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: LOWright] #266304
Wed Aug 03 2011 07:02 PM
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My opinion is that many of the signs being talked about in this thread are real, but you make the call for yourself. Opinon are like holes, and we all have no less than one.

Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: Madison Oil] #266537
Fri Aug 05 2011 08:09 PM
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YES, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PEOPLE IN INDIA REPOPING PORCELAIN SIGNS. DO YOU REALIZE HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THE U.S. ARE MAKING PORCELAIN REPOPS?

Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: signgod2112] #326522
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Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: 57tbirdkid] #326622
Thu May 17 2012 02:25 PM
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I wouldn't buy a sign from India, because 100% of the ones I have seen are fake. That is the only reason I don't own a Esso Elephant Kerosene sign and never will.

They have tainted all Esso Elephant Kerosene signs for me.

To many dishonest e-Bay sellers are importing the fakes and selling them locally as real ones.

Chances of you buying a fake one are greater than you buying a real one! And in my books that's a fact.


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Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: 57tbirdkid] #326702
Thu May 17 2012 07:44 PM
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Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: JimT] #327093
Sun May 20 2012 09:12 AM
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Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: K W FRITH] #327139
Sun May 20 2012 03:17 PM
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The way our hobby is heading every porcelain sign will be an esso elephant or an oval mobil gargoyle. So widely accepted repops that the majority of buyers are not aware or do not care any longer


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Re: Another FAKE Sign From INDIA! [Re: THERMOMAN] #327343
Mon May 21 2012 08:06 AM
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Good point Thermoman.I've got several pieces in my collection,tin signs,porcelain pump plates and decals,that are seldom seen and a few that no one areund here even knew existed.This is one of the reasons I will never post pics of them.They can't pop them if they don't know what an original looked like!!

You taught me well DB when you said not to post them if I don't want them popped.I listened.

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