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Does anyone know for certain, in what year was the outline on the "T" changed from black to white? I can't seem to find this information!!
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thats one good question.. im stumpt
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I have never read anything definitive, nor spoken with anyone who was associated with the compnay, in determinimg the transition from the black perimetered "T" to the white. It was, however, a question a friend and I explored during 27 years of accumulation so my response is based purely on personal experience through items owned or observed in other collections. We had come to the conclusion that 1939 was the final year. We saw many examples of the black "T" dated '39 but nothing ever later.I have both a porcelain "Consignee" key hole and "No Smoking", with the black "T", and each are dated 1939. But, to show you no one has "seen it all" nor knows it all, this year produced a "Distributor" keyhole sign ink-stamed by Veribrite-Chicago 7-46. It throws everything I thought I "knew" far off center.
I just got a new computer and do not yet have software to reduce photo file sizes but would be happy to supply pictures sometime soon. Let me know at don-brock@comcast.net if interested.
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I believe that Veribrite sign was a reproduction.
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Here 's a completed listing on eBay of an original 1939 black T keyhole
330756314531 (for reference).
I couldn't find the completed listing for the Veribrite sign that was mentioned.
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I do believe that Doug(blacktee), would have a pretty fair idea... LOL
Between Doug and Erol (A good portion, if not most of the photos from the book "A Tour with Texaco were taken of Erol's Collection) and I must not forget Jamie... I don't know 3 more knowledgeable Collectors about Texaco history... And all 3 are, IMO, "straight shooters" that aren't afraid to share their knowledge.....
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Very interesting guys!! Thanks for the input. So at least, as a naive collector, I have a much better idea. Thanks!!!
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heres the web site to re-size pictures. http://cranno.com
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I have a Consignee sign that is dated 3/40 with the white outlined T, for what it is worth....
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Thanks for the website for re-sizing pictures....very helpful!
As far as the Veribrite being repro.....let me get some pics posted and see what you guys think. I'll have to admit I questioned a few things such as the very fact that it was a black "T" and '46. As mentioned, never saw ANYTHING after '39 with black. Also, this one is dated on the back....every other keyhole sign I've seen or owned were dated in a corner. And, one of the black outlines is squiggly....I figured it was just a factory error......most other aspects appear legit...but I've been fooled before.
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Here's the link to the '46 Veribrite consignee sign. Did I get a fake? http://www.ebay.com/itm/130676824186
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One more inconsistency with this piece, as compared to all others I have seen or owned, is that the black perimeter (around entire sign) does not form a circle around the star.
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That's a pretty good repro...if its a fake? Even with the inconsistency with the black "T" and the date. I would lean to it being an original; in my opinion.
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IMO there was a transistion period phasing out the black T which seems to be around 10yrs on certain pieces starting in the 30's & ending in the 40's..
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