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just wondering the authenticity of this sign, 24" long x16 1/2" tall. not porcelain. real or not.its heavy metal . thanks
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Pretty sure its original, as I don't believe you could fake that kind of porcelain deterioration. Between the lack of gloss, porcelain fade, and the rust, I would venture a guess that its real.
The overseas repoppers seem to leave the gloss & finish alone and only chip it up where it won't hurt the value much! Usually the only rusty part will be the backs on those overseas signs.
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I bought one out in Iowa...same sign but different wear (rusty edges and scrapes and bruises...I've always thought they were real (I HOPE SO!). Likely a 1950s sign? They are not marked or the ones I've seen are not marked...the one I have has exact measurements...Yours looks sunbaked (like it was outside in the heat...IMO its right.
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Hi , I have had/seen quite a few of those signs . From my understanding I do not believe that the repros. (quite a few different mfg.) were made with the same metal rivet like yours in the picture . Pretty sure yours is original . Most of my Canadian ones did not have the date stamped on them . Stew.
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The Ford oval is another sign that has been reproduced for so long and by so many different makers that they have ruined it for me. Always afraid to buy because chances of getting a fake are probably greater than getting an original.
Waiting on a Ford oval that comes with a bit of history and from a credible individual. May be waiting for a while!
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kevin, it isnt porcelain looks like it though. it is nice and heavy, i have had it for about 5 yrs now. no maker or dates on it grabber, is the one you have painted tin? thanks for the input!
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Yes...painted tin...I have owned around 3 or 4 of them...all with same grommets and finish (tin)...
From what I have heard The Model T club started repopping the porcelain versions in the early 70s...On the porcelains ones its pretty easy to tell reals from pops (as long as they are marked)...originals are either veribrite...or marked chattanooga, tn...Tenn versions seem to be harder to find...I have also heard there are original porcelain versions that arent marked (great...) I can see why Dave has been so reluctant to pull the trigger...
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How about a picture of the back of the sign?
BTW, many of the repos use modern alloy metals that don't rust the same as old ones as they have more zinc in them.
I had one of the vintage Ford Veribrite's earlier this year and saw a restored version as well, the pigment of the modern blue is easier to spot.
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the pictures i have are front and back, one side is faded more. im going with the info on here and what i know about signs and my gut says real.
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I happen to know an old timer that has collected Ford for over fifty years, his collection is downright scary. The one thing he always told me to watch out for in Ford signs is the script in the "F" where the F is crossed. If the script is long such as this example, thats good and probably original. If its a short script (again, where the F is crossed) then tell the seller to go kick rocks because its a fake. He showed me examples between the two so watch out! Just wanted to provide some extra info folks. Good luck hunting Goober
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Pretty sure its original, as I don't believe you could fake that kind of porcelain deterioration. Between the lack of gloss, porcelain fade, and the rust, I would venture a guess that its real.
The overseas repoppers seem to leave the gloss & finish alone and only chip it up where it won't hurt the value much! Usually the only rusty part will be the backs on those overseas signs.
KW he states in the post it is not a porcelain sign!
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7th photo down on second page looks just like yours posted. Seems to be original.
Last edited by strnge; Sun Aug 12 2012 07:46 PM.
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