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#349362 Sat Aug 18 2012 11:20 AM
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Wow!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/300764059417?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619

This is the 2nd one I have seen on eBay. brought big $$$ as well several years ago.

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Nice rocker, interesting how it started it's life as a Shell can originally and then somehow and somewhere rebranded as a Harley Can. 7 days to go and it's up to $1750.00.


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Looks like someone cancelled their bid. Its down to 1500.00 now. Reserve not met....

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someone will get screwed because someone made up/painted a can years ago "for themselves". can you imagine what it will be like 20 years from now.


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I'm just trying to figure out if it was done years ago and now its old or just recently added Harley graphics and now "aged" .

Not buying the Harley bought the Shell cans *****....

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....no, Harley wouldn't have bought the Shell cans...the can company may have repainted leftover Shell tin sheets with Harley graphics, before they were made into cans...we've all seen the cans that have other labels inside the can, printed on the backside of the tin...

...it even happened with fully-assembled cone top beer cans - especially Crowntainers...


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So how does one "label" this item? Fake? Fantasy? Mistake? Replica? Original? Whatever? And does it have value as a collectable?
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Dave
PS Collecting is becoming "complicated". LOL


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Dave thats a good question! I guess if you was kicking it down at the St Loius can company in the roaring 20s you would be a expert.
Looks like can has had dents blowed out of it cause it has a outward crease on the shell side. Although the seller seems like a honest joe, I wouldn't cough up that kind of money with the maybes in question. Just my opinion,and you know what they say about them.


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...if the can was made in the 1920's-1930's with overprinted tin, I think the value is the same as a can made at the time with not-overprinted tin...original...


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I agree and think its orginal,but there is allways that unknown.
Harley stuff is over valued as a whole in my opinion. If they keep demanding prices like this there will be fakes out there.
Seller is banking on what a antique dealer told him. I have never had one tell me a big one have you?


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Condition isn't there to bring that kind of money anyways IMO. Fake Or not. But again your are talking about a different breed of humans. Harley people can get a little out of control!

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2 found on the net:



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If its a redo, its a good one.

I would think Harley would have gotten new blank cans to to put their graphics on, versus using the existing Shell can.
Unless where they were getting them from did use up old stock of other cans, in this case Shell.
Which would fall in line with the reprinted tin cans mentioned earlier.
These were for use, not for show, so they wouldnt have to be perfect.
Were they used at HD dealerships service area?

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Originally Posted By: Notchcad
Condition isn't there to bring that kind of money anyways IMO. Fake Or not. But again your are talking about a different breed of humans. Harley people can get a little out of control!


I wasn't going to say that,afaird I would hit a nerve or two. Harley guys have been added two by doctors,lawlers, successfull business owners that owned bike way back when and want to try it again. Nothing wrong with that. They just don't look at the dollar the same as I do. SO EXPLAINS THE ORGINAL POST " WOW ".


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Gotta think, back then Harley probably wasn't the powerhouse they are now. They had to compete with Indian and others. They may have seen a way to save a few grand and bought some old cans??


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Neat can with an interesting storied past...I think it's an original. Unable to determine for sure via photographs. But, easily determined if you were holding the can.


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